mr ayatollah khamenei, will not come close to the u.s. while he is alive.et me say this, over the last 36 years, the attitude towards the u.s. has been what i call no war, no piece. any time the war is an issue, he has come inning trying to make peace and concessions, and show, you know, places like hassan rouhani and others. any time that peace gets a little too far, he goes back again to that patient side, the war side so he can always keep the balance of no war, no peace. >> thank you for coming on the programme. the former iranian presidential candidate and board member. >> next, the long road to ending iran's nuclear programme. we look at the pressure and diplomacy applied to both sides, and go back to iran for final thoughts from ali velshi. >>> posturing, sanctions and hard-line policies, for decades, that's a story for iran and u.s. relations. both are poised to strike a deal. the road has not been easy, ali velshi is in train and explains how we got here. >> reporter: september 27, 2013, president obama shocks the world, speaking with iranian presi

mr. ayatollah received money for emphasis medallion and obtained a new s permit medallion through a mistakenn arrow and has been operating for about a year at this point, we're pulling that medallion what can due to the mistake the board or hearing officer below agreed it is yes, a permit medallion cannot hold this particular permit and this board agreed or this board upheld anyway, the decision to allow the medallion to remain revoked for the hearing officer judgment there is nothing new it is an opportunity to relitigate the issue once again so we ask the board deny this rehearing request and uphold the permit s-29 a i have a question out of the hundred and 40 permits issued in the pilot program were there a hundred and 40 permits issued. >> that's correct i'm sorry 4 the s permit yes about hundred and 40 plus or minus a few. >> the other question if this gets permit gets revoked will that one s permit be reissued or resolve itself. >> it won't devolve assuming we implementing eliminate the program that will be repurposed to be resold to a new medallion holder. >> okay. >> but we've been a

mr. ayatollah received money for emphasis medallion and obtained a new s permit medallion through a mistaken through an arrow and has been operating for about a year at this point, we're pulling that medallion what can due to the mistake the board or hearing officer below agreed it is yes, a permit medallion cannot hold this particular permit and this board agreed or this board upheld anyway, the decision to allow the medallion to remain revoked for the hearing officer judgment there is nothing new it is an opportunity to relitigate the issue once again so we ask the board deny this rehearing request and uphold the permit s-29 a i have a question out of the hundred and 40 permits issued in the pilot program were there a hundred and 40 permits issued. >> that's correct i'm sorry 4 the s permit yes about hundred and 40 plus or minus a few. >> the other question if this gets permit gets revoked will that one s permit be reissued or resolve itself. >> it won't devolve assuming we implementing eliminate the program that will be repurposed to be resold to a new medallion holder. >> okay. >> but we

mr. lapid: when you say is just wrong. natanz -- ayatollah company is still the supreme leader and has been for a decade. the president from ahmadinejad -- not even second in command, third or fourth. khamanei was the leader then and is the leader now and it is the exact same regime, execs a method, and the fact that the world is allowing them to get away with such an agreement -- laura: but they still don't have a bomb. israel has been saying for years that iran is building a bomb in many years later they still don't have one. mr. lapid: this is because the sanctions were effective, and because the iranian economy -- it is not that easy. now it will be that much easier. they will have more money, more ability to approach the international technological market. it will be much easier for them to develop in hiding, as they did before, the nuclear program. the fact that the nuclear program -- they didn't get the bomb was due to the fact that the sanctions were very effective. we are taking a tool that was very effective and throwing it away for

overlapping speakers ] >> it's a little bit like what does the ayatollah think and i only read what he says. >> who is your counterpart mr. muniz. >> mr. slahe. >> have you read what he said on july 22nd about the side deal? he said -- let's see we have reached an understanding with the iaea god willing, there will be very positive results. we do not accept the pnd arrangement. we don't agree with that. and we reject the concept. what kind of arrangement has he made to make him feel so positive? >> first of all i have not read it -- >> i'm going to give it to you. >> second -- >> you don't have to answer. would it be surprising to you that he is telling the iranian people don't worry about this side deal we're going to get a good outcome. >> i assume what he is suggesting that there were no nuclear materials in parchin and this remains to be seen. >> i assume he feels we have reached an agreement that he's okay with. >> i would read it differently -- >> well we don't know what he means. and apparently we don't know what the ayatollah wants. he means they have reached an agreement where they don't have to worry about insp

the ayatollah allowed five men to run for president. there was mr. black, and mr. black. the overwhelming number of iranians voted for mr. slightly light black. they were tired of being isolated from the world. one of the things you learn is they have had enough islam to know they want less of it and they have had enough democracy to know they want more. charlie: they thought the previous election had been taken away from them. tom: that is, the supreme leader had to let rahani be elected. charlie: they knew what they were doing when they selected the foreign minister. tom: look at what the supreme leader has done since that crackdown in the 2009 revolution. they have used up a lot internally. these guys are survivors. and so all i am saying is that people who will shape iran's behavior more than anything is that wider public opinion. charlie: back to the president's conviction. you seem to argue in your columns that it is the best option and can be an effective option is properly implemented and augmented. tom: i think that is really important. one of the things that has

the point and made them, -- i made then, the ayatollah allowed five men to run for president. there was mrblack, and mr. black. mr. slightly less black. the slightly less black guy was rahan? i. and what happens? they vote for the slightly less black guy. they were tired of being isolated. one of the things you learn is they have had enough islam to know they want less of it and they have had enough democracy to know they want more. charlie: they showed that when they went in to the streets. they thought the previous election had been taken away from them. tom: the main negotiator nude they were there for tourism. the supreme leader had to let rahani be elected. he had to play this deal out. charlie: they knew what they were doing when they selected the foreign minister. tom: no question. also, look at what the supreme leader has done since that crackdown in the 2009 revolution. they have eased up a lot internally. these guys are survivors. and so all i am saying is that ultimately, i think the people who will shape iran's behavior more than anything is that wider public opinion. charlie:

mr. mousavian do you have the same kind of divisions in iran between the ayatollah on one hand and perhaps the president on the other hand? >> actually, there is not much differences between the supreme leader and president, but we have different fractions very powerfully opposing the deal like republicans in the congress, but charlie, i should say there is a big misinterp thighs of the ayatollah's statement. i read the text carefully. what he said he said implementation of iranian commitments should be synchronized with lifting sanctions. it means the process should be a step by step with proportionate resip case from each party. this is number one. number two, the issue of mistrust is completely correct. i have always said the mistrust is far, far beyond nuclear issue. however, when we are talking about weapons of mass destruction, we need to respect the fact after the second world war, iran is the biggest victim of use of weapons of mass destruction. saddam hussein used chemical weapons. about 100,000 iranians were either killed or injured. unfortunately, the u.s. supported saddam husse

mr. speaker, while the ayatollah has preached death to america, the united states and the west have made a deal with the deceitful wolf of the desert. iran promises to temporarily cut back and not continue its nuclear weapon development capability. then iran will receive sanction relief. it will be able to export oil and receive billions of dollars in cash. until five years the embargo on most conventional weapons against iran will be lifted. in eight years iran will be able to import icbms. in 10 years the deal expires and iran can develop nuclear weapons. thus legitimatizing the number one state sponsor of terrorism and allowing it to be a nuclear weapons power. this is dangerous. this will start a nuclear arms race. israel will be less safe. so will america. in theory this deal is supposed to give us peace in our time to coin a phrase. but iran is a wolf in wolf's clothing and the wolf has made a deal with the sheep not to eat them for 10 years. then what? suffer? and that's just the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the

the point i made then was the iranian-- the ayatollah allowed five men to run for president back then. they were mr. black mr. black, mr. black mr. black, mr. slightly less black, and slightly light black guy was rouhani. and what happens? the overwhelming number of iranians vote for mr. slightly light black. why? because they are so tired of being isolated from the world. one thing you learn when you go to iran is they've had enough islam to know they want less and enough to know they want more. >> rose: they showed that when when they went into the streets after the previous wrb-- when they thought the previous election had been taken a which. >> in other words, are you hani an zarif were in for tourism, that is the supreme leader understood one he had to let rouhani be elected and number two, he had to play this deal out. >> rose: and they knew what they were doing when they selected zarif as the foreign minister. >> no question. >> rose: they knew a guy who knew america and could have a relationship with america. >> and look what the supreme leader has done since that crackdown, the 2009 revolu

leaders, can president rouhani and ayatollah khomeini and president obama in washington make the case to their publics for why this is really in their country's interests. >> mr. levertt, we have been talking for weeks about deadlines and where are they in the necessity dpoesh yags negotiations. it is important to talk about how historic this is. you have the united states and iran sitting down at the same table talking about forging a new partnership. talk to me about what a moment this is for iran and the united states. >> i think this could potentially be a truly historic moment. i'm someone, my wife and i both in government and in years since we left government we have long advocated that the united states needs to formulate its relations with the islamic republican of iran as it did in the 1970s with the republic of china. we have to wait and see if the obama administration is willing and able to use it for that purpose. i think there are people in the administration who understand the potential, but i'm skeptical that there's really at this point the kind of consensus in the administration and willingness to spend the political capital necessary as the

mr. lieberman: i have a lot more confidence and tom brady then ayatollah khomeini. it has been great to have the p5 plus one together. it strengthened our position. it talk about trade-offs i would rather have us reject a bad deal and run the risk of having the p5 plus one coalition dissolve them except a bad deal which will compromise our security and that of our allies. part of what has been lost is the iranians need a disagreement more than we did. -- needed this agreement more than we did. they are in more trouble economically. if for some reason the p5 plus one coalition falls apart we are still the economic superpower of the world. access to our banking system is still necessary for economic growth. we have the capacity ourselves to reimpose sanctions on them. mr. keating: thank you. i yield back. >> you can watch the entire hearing at our video library. to c-span.org. >> up next on c-span, president obama talks about the iran nuclear deal. we will also hear from iran's president. later, reaction from congress to the agreement. >> federal reserve chair yellen

mrs. clinton focused on the economy, blaming republican policies for economic downturn in the 2000's. >>> with e ink dry on the nuclear as disarmament -- disarmament deal, the details are being explained. the ayatollah the -- told iranians that the deal is good because tehran may enrich uranium. he described the united states has an atrocious aggressor. >> today iran has enough nuclear material to produce 10 nuclear weapons. with this deal, they will have to ship 98% of that material out of the country, leaving them with a fraction of what it takes to make even one weapon.>> president obama used his address today to bring -- explain how the deal will prevent iran from making a bomb. the deal has been criticized as legitimizing iran's roll as a power in the middle east. >>> a woman found dead in a jail cell. the family is challenging the claims that she committed suicide.>> no justice, no peace.>>> yesterday, a demonstration in texas for sandra bland. she was arrested on july 10 after police say she kicked an officer during a traffic stop. her arrest was videotaped. she can be heard complaining that the officer slammed her head in the ground. three days later, she was found dead in hearst cell. -- he

mr. cruz: and there is no issue more important than that the next president be one who will stand up on the world stage and say unequivocally under no circumstances will iran led by a theocratic ayatollah who leaves chance of death to america under no circumstances will iran be allowed to acquire a nuclear weapon. mr. luntz: ladies and gentlemen, senator ted cruz. [applause] >> welcome to iowa and the 2015 family leadership summit. former arkansas governor mike can be. -- huckabee. [applause] >> thank you. i recognize that people want both. i want by applause what you think is a greater threat to america's future. and by the way, the reason that i do this is that we have a 140 people sitting up. sitting up here writing about this. when you think about a threat to america, what is more of a threat to you? the collapse of the culture and the family or the economic collapse and the loss of jobs? which is a greater threat to america's future? by applause, who thinks it is a family and culture? [applause] mr. luntz: ok, we got it. you just cut into 15 seconds of his time. i don't have to ask the other side. so what does the next president do? i don't think you believe that we should be legi

mr. cruz: and there is no issue more important than that the next president be one who will stand up on the world stage and say unequivocally under no circumstances will iran led by a theocratic ayatollahance of death to america under no circumstances will iran be allowed to acquire a nuclear weapon. mr. luntz: ladies and gentlemen, senator ted cruz. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. introducing one of the nation's foremost advocates for preserving marriage, cofounder and president of the national organization or marriage, brian brown -- national organization for marriage, brian brown. [applause] mr. luntz: i've got to tell you i'm a little surprised see you here today. i don't think i got the memo from the first few rows, but you lost. the issue is over. the issue is over. half the people running for office are saying that nowadays. nothing to see here. the institution of marriage, which predates human civilization by about 6000 years -- no fight, nothing to do. yet, we had a dinner last night to get ready for tonight's event. by golly, you are the most chipper person in the room. explain for our audience why you are so optimistic on the heels of the united states supr

do you think the ayatollah is going to come and negotiate? senator: please shorten your remarks. mr. kerry: the reason the president talks about the possibility of war is iran has made it clear that if this is rejected they consider themselves back to -- to go back to enrich. the inevitable consequence of that would be what are you going to do about it? we will have lost the international support because the international community is ready to enforce this deal. if we are not unilaterally, they walk away. you have huge difficulty with sanctions and you lose your support for the military strike if there had to be one. it is not a choice the president wants to make but it is the consequence of them moving to assert the furtherance of their program. senator: senator. senator: i want to thank the witnesses for being here. i want to take this opportunity. it is probably going to be the last time general dempsey testifies. i want to thank you for your service and the service of your family. when you appear before the committee i was the person who asked you about -- there had been floated

mr. president? status quo? >> afraid so. >> first sign of hope in two weeks from the embassy in iran, the students holding the hostages promise to obey an order from ayatollahsaid islam has respect for women and blacks who spent ages under american oppression and tyranny. >> the president was apparently confident that at least some of the hostages will soon be free. we are thankful said his statement, the ordeal may be over for them and soon reunited with their families. but it went on to urge that the authorities in iran now move to secure the safe release of all of those still being held. >> what can you do? you bring pressure. you can bring sanctions. you can go to the united nations. you can send emissaries. but america can't do a damn thing. >> ted koppel on abc news, walter cronkite, america, day 15, day 100, day 200. it started wearing on people. and carter started becoming the symbol of lost american prestige. >> ronald reagan is running officially. he got in the race tonight in new york city at a fund-raising dinner. and he taped a speech yesterday for showing tonight on about 90 independent television stations. >> i'm here tonight to announce my i

ayatollah thinking. i don't know what he is taking. >> what is your counterpart, mr. moniz, what is his name? >> mr. sull ahi. >> did he read what he said on july 22nd according to the research institute about the deal. he said -- let's see, we have reached an understanding with the iaea, god willing, there will be very positive results. we do not accept the pmd arrangement. we don't agree with that. and we reject the concept. what kind of arrangement has he made to make him feel so positive? >> first of all, i had not read it. >> i'm going to give it to you. you don't have to answer. would it be surprising to you that he's telling the iranian people don't worry about this idea, we're going to get a good outcome? >> i assume what he is suggesting -- >> well if you didn't know about it -- >> is that there were no nuclear deals and that remains to be seen. that is my assumption. >> we've reached an arrangement that we're okay with. but the difference does matter. >> i would read it differently just from hearing it. >> well we don't know what he means and apparently we don't know what the ayatollah wan

iran's ayatollah khamenei tweeting out a picture we have chosen not to show, that appears to depict a silhouette of president obama pointing a gun to his head. the post, an apparent response to mraims that the united states could still use military force if the deal with tehran fails. during a speech in ethiopia today president obama defended this agreement. >> i have not yet heard a factual argument on the other side that holds up to scrutiny. there is a reason why 1999% of the world thinks it is a good deal -- 99%. because it is a good deal. the reason why overwhelming majority of nuclear scientists and non-prolive race experts think it's a good deal, because it's a good deal. it accomplishes our goal because it make sure that iran does not get a nuclear weapon. >> 99% of the world think this is good deal judge. didn't even have hard time selling selling this to members of his own party. >> i'm not sure where he came up with that number. obviously criticizing people being political and he is being political and in another country and made defense of it. i read this thing. it will put you to sleep. it involves thousands of individual compromises. would i have made each the com

ayatollah thinks. now you want me to read what he says and i take -- >> who's your counterpart, mr. moniz?t's his name? >> mr. sullahe. >> have you read what he said on july 22nd according to middle east media research institute? about the side deal. on said we have reached an understanding with the iaea, god willing, there will be very positive results. we don't accept the pmd arrangement. we don't agree with that. and we reject the concept. what kind of arrangement has he made to make him feel so positive? >> first of all, i had not red it. >> i'm going to give it to you. >> secondly -- >> you don't have to answer. would it be surprising to you he's telling the iranian people don't worry about this side deal, we're going to get a good outcome? >> i assume what he is suggesting -- >> if you didn't know about it. >> -- is that there were no nuclear deals in gachin. >> i assume he's saying we reached an arrangement we're okay with. that's what i'm assuming. >> i would read it differently just from hearing -- >> we don't know what he means. apparently we don't know what the ayatollah wants.

ayatollah khomeini has also agreed to it? >> i think he has agreed to the whole negotiation process because foreign policies under his -- is his domain of power. there are mr. zarif has been following him and he has got full respect. if you -- i'm sure you've listened to the fierce reaction, saying it's the best deal we could get. it wasn't the ideal thing therefore, it's the beginning. i would expect the ayatollah comes and supports the deal, but having look at it critically. he doesn't want to alienate the supporters or those who are critical of the deal. if you notice in iran in the last few weeks the critics have been rather reserved about attacking the negotiating team. before they did but since ayatollah said i am supporting them, they are people of the revolution, they are faithful, they are trustworthy so he's supporting them, but at the same time, i'm sure zarif wasn't totally behind it. he said it wasn't the best we could get. we did our best, that's what it is. i think iranians will have to -- time to reflect on it at that at the end of the day i think they'll accept it, but they would be negotiating, they will be resenting some of the other det

mr. chairman. thank you all for being here. i appreciate your expertise on this very sensitive important subject. i look at the ruling party the ayatollah, as a wolf in wolf's clothing. he's made it clear that he wants death to america. he said that numerous times. and now it seems to me that the wolf has made a deal with the sheep, not to eat the sheep for ten years. and then what? supper? we don't know. my concern is was there ever any discussions that there needed to be free elections in iran? and let the people decide who should rule over them? do any of you know of any discussion about that in this deal that has been taking place for sometime? senator lieberman? >> i don't. i assume it was off the table and wasn't mentioned. along with the other things that boernl us about -- bother us about iran's behavior and their support of terrorism incarceration of americans and deprivation of human rights of their own people and we could go on and on. >> mit cal hang -- public hangings of political opponents. >> exactly. >> do you agree that the best hope really for world security and iran is they had a regime change with peaceful elections.

ayatollahs in control, or a radical government, you would have to put together another sanctions regime. threaten them reserve the right to use military force if they saw a nuclear weapon. >> thank you, mr. chair. >> thank you, we go to steve shalit of ohio. >> thank you mr. chairman. senator lieberman i will begin with you. as has already been mentioned prime minister netanyahu has referred to this agreement as a mistake of historic proportions. what position does this put israel in? >> thanks, congressman. obviously netanyahu under the leadership as israel is -- leadership of israel is better prepared than i am. it is clear that based on the violent anti-israel rhetoric of the islamic republic of iran. based on the support of iran from the terrorists who threaten israel, the idea that the iranians would have a nuclear weapon in the foreseeable. of time -- on for see it -- in the foreseeable period of time it would lead the israeli government to make a decision to be better protected. what interesting things -- one of the interesting things is the israeli system, from what i see the feeling about this agreement and worrying about it in the weeks preceding it is shared across a very bro

mr. president, let me conclude by quoting someone i normally do not quote on the floor of the united states senate iranian supreme leader ayatollahkhamenei who just this past saturday stated the following -- quote -- "even after this deal our policy towards the arrogant united states will not change." and then he led the crowd he was before into chanting, "death to america." that, mr. president, is the country that we are hoping and risking our future on that will change. that we will have a -- quote -- "new relationship with," as the agreement states. to the american people we will continue to debate this critical issue. in the words of my colleague from maine we will bring fire to the debate and the truth will emerge. unfortunately here's one truth that i find self-evident. iran is not changing any time soon. that's because this agreement didn't force it to. mr. president, i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the assistant democratic leader. mr. durbin: mr. president if you ask most people in america what is the most heavily subsidized industry in america which industry which sector of our economy receives the highest leve