my father didn't come to hyfah from the budapest ghetto in order to get recognition from, mr. azin. the whole con september to me of the state of israel is that we recognize ourselve, that after 2,000 years of being dependent on other people, we are now independent and make our own rules. so this, on this we are conflicting. and i guess i am not willing to spend any political-- . >> rose: so in your judgement the palestinian does to the have to recognize israel as a jewish state in terms of negotiation. >> yeah. >> rose: number two, would you insist on israeli idea of forces on the>> i'm if the go into details because they're negotiating now. there is an agreement that is saying only secretary kerry is the one who is saying anything in public. i would tell you this. security arrangements are the most important thing for the israelis. listen, the problem with this negotiation is that israelies and palestinians want two very different things. the palestinians want peace and justice. the israelis want peace and security. and we will always conflict-- be in conflict there. so without ge