so mr. babbs, the issue that was raised -- mr. backes, the arguments that was raised by mr. abbs in his brief tonight is this arises as a result of a workplace whistleblower case from 2017. were any of the people that were involved in the investigation as witnesses, as administrators within the department, they were involved in the whistleblower case? were they planted in any way in any of the decision making, in any of the -- basically, across the board, are there, you know, because we have to be pretty clear, because there was a sustained whistleblower case. i do understand there was some recorded incidents that were, you know, clearly highly problematic, and so i do have concerns about retaliation. i don't know if they were sustained concerns. i know they were sustained there, but how are we to understand or how are we to address this case -- and let me ask you this: does officer babbs, did it come into history that he has a history of sexual battery or any other conduct that would be relevant to sexual battery in this case? >> sure. so as to the question about the whistle

so mr. babbs, the issue that was raised -- mr. backes, the arguments that was raised by mr. abbs in his brief tonight is this arises as a result of a workplace whistleblower case from 2017. were any of the people that were involved in the investigation as witnesses, as administrators within the department, they were involved in the whistleblower case? were they planted in any way in any of the decision making, in any of the -- basically, across the board, are there, you know, because we have to be pretty clear, because there was a sustained whistleblower case. i do understand there was some recorded incidents that were, you know, clearly highly problematic, and so i do have concerns about retaliation. i don't know if they were sustained concerns. i know they were sustained there, but how are we to understand or how are we to address this case -- and let me ask you this: does officer babbs, did it come into history that he has a history of sexual battery or any other conduct that would be relevant to sexual battery in this case? >> sure. so as to the question about the whistle