mr. baby ner, and the letter of deration in this case and this can be complicated and seeking a variance for a property you have never owned and when we a record of building permits issued pursuant to the planning code presumably. i would hate to revoke 18 permits since that time and they were improperly issued and that wouldn't be fair so it's the zoning administrator that these lots we can review and make a letter through the letter of determination process so given there was a letter of determination given to us given the applicant , the requester didn't provide all the information. they didn't say they submitted the condo application. it came to the office and i think the requester knows very well the processes of the planning department and that should have been shared with us at that time and we issued the letter on september 11 including the language about our determination that the record. i actually feel that benefited the appellant in this case and they could have the matter brought before the board. otherwise we're relying on the determination of the condo map and i don't thin