mr. backus getting the backing of his most important shareholder shari redstone.gain, in this letter that should be released in the not too distant future and sent to the company saying, hey, we want you to discontinue conversations and we like the strategy you're pursuing. >> wow. i think that obviously viacom many people are hoping for something but cbs has been trading an at pretty big discount to the s&p. they have done a lot of good things. cbs radio deal. i mean, they have to sell off 15 times earnings and earning more than four bucks cbs undervalued on that story. a lot of people thought that cbs paying too much no matter what. >> it's funny because the people indicated to me any deal -- any offer not fairly significant premium would fall on deaf ears and didn't appear to have the momentum and talk of leslie moo moonves and ms. redstone negotiating for governance and what's most significant is performance of mr. backus with confidence of the largest hair shoulder and i had conversations with viacom shareholders and see does seem to be on top of it. he will