mr. bainwol: this is not to contradict, but just to clarify. gary used the words about fatalities in cars as of cars are killing people. i want to clarify that 95% maybe 98% or 99% of the fatalities on the roads are result of environmental challenges and human error. the car itself worked rather beautifully. in the critical point that we would both embrace -- rep. issa: i think he was talking about any luck breaks traction control, all the items that come out that have reduced the death rate in all too flawed drivers. mr. bainwol: we are very proud of those technologies we want to see the move into the fleet as soon as possible. those technologies are the answer to human error, which is a huge problem. rep. issa: mr. reed, said you were given credit for development of apps, your members wanting to be able to develop apps depend on either an open standard or, in the alternative, being able to come if you will hack it able to create interfaces because otherwise you are locked out of interfaces with the automobile and other products. mr. reed: it

mr. bainwol.ountless of millions of automobiles will not be equipped with those systems for decades to come. to 65 mustang or any other classic cars that congressman ron barga says will not ever be equipped with them. can you comment on the need to make sure that any standard allows for aftermarket retrofitting a product that is the greatest extent possible enjoy the benefits of new technology brought to market a new automobile? [inaudible] >> happy to comment. there is a challenge in the auto space with three penetration to the average age of the car is 11. would introduce a new technology it takes a long time to wind its way through the entire fleet -- >> not with mr. shapiro's after market products. >> it took 30 years to go from introduction to 95% penetration to your point about penetration is about one. indicates that these technologies that offers such value to society i think you raise a legitimate point went to find a way to fill the gap. the truth of the matter is in part that cat is fil

mr. bainwol and others. the faa having jurisdiction over this, they made a decision only those who send out a signal can, in fact, receive a signal. so today systems that cost anywhere from 6 at the low end plus installation to hundreds of thousands of dollars equipped in aircraft, they communicate by sending out and receiving information where others are. mobile devices devices that can be bought for a matter of a few hundred dollars that only receive are blocked from receiving that information meaning that as you roll out a new technology mr. bainwol, clearly these kinds of technologies is what big auto is looking at rolling out, countly millions of automobiles will not be equipped with those systems for decades to come. the '65 mustang or any classic cars congressman vargas has will not ever be equipped with them. can you comment on the need to make sure any standard allows for after market retrofitting of products that to the greatest extent possible enjoy the benefits of newer technology brought to mark

mr. mitchel bainwol, president and ceo of the alliance of automobile manufacturers, and mr.xecutive director of the association for competitive technology. before i go down the road for the witnesses i have to take a little bit of a personal privilege. the other three know it. mr. shapiro and i go way back a long time. we were there at the birth of a modern consumer electronics association, and i once worked for him on an unpaid highly compensated an unpaid position as the chairman. so if today i can rough them up, remember, get back -- get back state law. and with that, mr. shapiro. >> thank you, chairman dick this is an historic moment in molecular i've been referring to you as boss for 25 years. and you oversight good portion of our freedom and our growth. thank you ranking member nadler, chairman good law and other members as well. the consumer electronic association represents 2000 technology copies and what own and produce that cbs which is held each january in las vegas and is the world's largest innovation event. the internet of things is a big part. it's so big that