mr. bainwol and then mr. bozzella. have nhtsa and the auto industry had discussions on how to apply the risk management frame work to security? >> not directly nist but discussions with the administrator of best practices. we met with him in september and his view that the pace of innovation is so rapid that it would be wise for us to move forward with best practices and would be in his words more nimble and as a result of that conversation, as a result of discussions with members of this committee we made the decision and this will be part of the frame work evaluate as we move forward. >> mr. bozzella? >> yes. i will just simply build on mr. bainwol's comment by says the nist frame work is part of our discussion as an industry and i think it is important to recognize that though we have had ongoing conversations with nhtsa, that we can't afford to wait. it's really important that we make sure that our customers have the confidence and the trust in the products so that they can take advantage of the benefits, the life-

mr. bainwol.d the alliance of automobile manufacturers ask the committee for the provision in the bill that would give automakers a break from health-based carbon emissions requirements in exchange for adding safety features? >> we did not request it per se but we had a conversation -- >> yes or no. do you support that provision, yes or no. >> we support the provision. >> you do? >> sure. >> and mr. bozzella, i'm asking same question of the association of global automakers. did you ask the committeetee for that provision. >> we did not? >> do you support it? >> the provision to incentivize life saving technologies we think is very important conversation to have. >> well i want all consumers to understand that, that manufacturers of automobiles support a provision that would actually increase pollution in exchange for providing -- i'm not asking now. i'm talking. that would to improve safety of the automobiles. i think it is outrageous. consumers like myself, who now have a hybrid, are seeking that

mr. bainwol and and mr. bozzella. half nhtsa and the outer industry had discussions on how best to apply the nist cybersecurity risk to automobile security? >> not directly the question of nist but we've had discussion with the administered about best practices. we met with him into timber and it was his view that the pace of innovation is so rapid that it would be wise for us to move forward with best practices, that we would be in his words more nimble. as result of the conversation, as a result of discussions with members of this committee we made the decision to move forward with best practices. this will be part of the framework that we evaluate as we move forward. >> yes. i won't just simply built on his comment by saying that the nist for and what is going to be part of our discussion as an industry, and i think it is important to recognize that although we've had ongoing conversations with nhtsa, that we can't afford to wait. it's really important that we make sure that our customers have the confidence and tr

mr. bainwol, and i'd like a yes or no answer on this. does the alliance oppose h.r. 2198 despite general motors -- >> the alliance does not have consens consensus. >> thank you. mr. welch -- so you can't yes or no? >> we don't have consensus so -- >> thank you. mr. welch, your organization has expressed concerns of the impact of the dealers. my question to you, when consumers bring their recalled cars to a dealer for repairs, and they need a loaner car, do you think dealers should be able to loan them vehicles with unrepaired safety recalls? i ask you for a yes or no answer. >> if the vehicle has been deemed to be unsafe to drive either by the oems or by nhtsa, we would not put one of those cars in the hands of a consumer. >> so that is a no? you do not think dealers should be able to loan vehicles that have -- with unrepaired safety recalls. >> no, i said if they're unsafe to drive we wouldn't put them out there. if it involved -- >> you would not loan them then as loaner cars? >> if it's unsafe to drive. if it had a, you know, a door ja

mr. bainwol.you are recognized for your opening statement please. >> thank you chairman, ranking member schakowsky and members of the subcommittee. given the size of the panel i'm reminded of what the former senator john warner said when he became elizabeth taylor's sixth husband. here i go. thank you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of the 12 global. our company our companies represent about 75% of the marketplace. our industry will put about eight days for a billion new cars on the road. with more than 16% of those in the u.s.. that is a lot of steel and aluminum and an astounding level of massive jobs and duplications. but even more striking than the scale is the game change game changing innovation mobility. they are generating enormous social benefits. the companies are investing about $100 billion a year in research including the development of the next-generation of the connected vehicle technologies. these technologies will save lives, save fuel and enhanced mobility. over the last

mr. mitch bainwol, from the alliance of automobile manufacturers. mr. john bow sell la. mrs. ann wilson, mr. greg dotson from the center for american progress. ms. joan claybrook. mr. peter welch, president of the national automobile dealers association and mr. michael wilson, the ceo of the automotive recyclers association. we do appreciate all of you being here with us this morning. we're grateful for your forbearance during the first panel. and we'll begin with mr. bane wol, and you're recognized for five minutes. >> thank you. given the size of this panel, i'm reminded of what former senator john warner said when he became elizabeth taylor's sixth husband. he said i know what to do, i'm just not sure how to make it interesting. so here i go. thank you for the opportunity to testify today on behalf of 12 global oems based in the u.s. and europe and's yeah. our companies represent about 75% of the marketplace. our industry will put about a billion, a billion new cars on the road over the next decade around the world. with more than 15% of those on the road in the u.s. that'