mr. barosso.et listen in to what he said. >> are we proving time and time again in europe that we're not understanding the russian national interests over issues such as cyprus and syria, trade, wto and energy and elsewhere else. >> i believe i understand the position of russia. i believe why russia has that position, but we have another perception, another analysis, and we define it another way. now the question is the difference or are the differences a real obstacle for achieving progress in the issues that we've discussed here from trade, investment, to energy, to mobility? i don't think it is. >> mr. barosso is, of course, the president of the european commission and the easy-going guy standing to his left, your right, is prime minister medved medveded. we'll talk about another country over there as we have michelle still waiting for us and simon down at the exchange. slovenia. see if you can pick slovenia off the map. if it flew under the radar screen, they became a member back in 2004 in th