mr. barrett, michelle here.u happen to be joining us another iconic name in technology is in a world of hurt because of the situation with the purchase of autonomy. i know i don't expect to you know a lot about what happened within that board room, but having run a technology company that has done acquisitions, when you look at the situation with hp, hear people like jim chanos say we saw accounting problems there how do you think about it, do you think there but for the grace of god go i or gosh what were they thinking? how did they miss this? >> the port thing when do you those sort of acquisitions, you must approach it from a dispassionate standpoint. the worst thing in the world could you have is a ceo who really wants to make an acquisition and will ignore the details. i'm not sure that happened. but the claims hp is making today is the due diligence was glossed over, the ceo at the time wanted to make the acquisition as a major portion of the strategic change for hp. they may have just been a little too sh

mr. barrett: thank you, chairman smith. and -- mr. barton: thank you, chairman smith. could i be alerted when my two minutes is up? could somebody do? i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. barton: there are many ralph hall stories, most of which we can't really tell on the house floor. that's how funny they are. but i want to tell one real true ralph hall story which is the epitome of a texan. several years ago ralph told me that he had some property up over in his district and he didn't have time to go visit it. he been involved in a bank and apparently the bank had taken control of the property and somehow ralph had gotten control of the bank's assets legally. so anyway it was his property but he never had time to go visit it. he had a caretaker who was taking care of his property. he began to get letters from the railroad commission down in austin. the railroad commission is in charge of oil and gas leases and royalties for the state of texas. and they kept saying in these letters asking where to sen

mr. caruso, yesterday craig barrett, former ceo of intel, described california where you live and do a lotf business as america's version of greece because of the level of public expenditure and so forth. do you see it that way? >> no, i don't see it that way. listen, california has its issues. locally we have our issues. there are income issues, there are increased taxes that i wouldn't necessarily want to have happen in the state, which did happen. but we have to address those. i think we've got positive momentum. i know we have positive momentum. so are we perfect? no. but california is growing at a much faster pace and a better pace than most of the united states. so i don't equate it to greece at all. >> mr. caruso, thank you for being with us and a happy thanksgiving to you. >> thanks you. >>> he's a billionaire, right? i wish he were related. >>> all right, next, making cardboard profitable and interesting. jane wells is on the case, of course. jane. >> hey, michelle. say you have a business where you use a lot of cardboard boxes and you want to be green and buy cheaper recycled box