mr. barry pavel. he is director of the center on international security at the atlantic council. he spent 18 years inside the department of defense in various positions in the senior executive service and also was a special assistant to the president and a senior director for defense policy and strategy in the white house from 2008 to july of 2010. to my right is lieutenant genre tired james duvik, he is a fellow at the institute for the study of war. he is a career infantry officer. i am sorry to hear about that. i am an artilleryman. he commanded the 25th infantry division at forth lewis, and the multi-national security transition command in iraq. then my old friend and colleague, mr. frank hoffman, he is a senior research fellow at the institute for national strategic studies. marine officer. i am sorry about that. >> who has walked and carried a pack as well. >> he has left the naval office for capabilities and readiness. he is published on hive wid warfare. we have been mates and co- conspirators together for many things. we want to ask everybody to turn all cell phones, bla