mr. bartlett? >> yes. thank you very much. you stated, mr. johnson, that we will not release prisoners to countries that torture. does that mean that we have stopped extraordinary renditions? >> as a general matter, congressman, i think it's our view that an extradition should occur to bring people to justice, not push them away from justice as a general matter. that would certainly would be my view and that's the view of the administration. >> and the extraordinary renditions that we're now approving, they are not going to countries that torture? >> i hesitate to comment on specific military operations or actions. i would just state that general principle. >> would it not be a huge contradiction for the administration to tell us that they're not going to release prisoners to countries that torture and then continue to approve extraordinary renditions to countries that may know darn well do torture? >> again, i hesitate to comment on specific operations. i'm not sure what you have in mind. but as a general matter, that is my view and i think

mr. bartlett there. he just walked in. mr. bartlett is recognized. >> you can go ahead with mr. whitfield. he was here before me. i am fine with that. >> mr. whitfield. >> we are all very polite so thank you very much. mr. chairman, i want to thank you also for holding yet another important hearing, examining the ongoing financial crisis in ways we can help our constituents get through these difficult times and medicate future problems. secretary geithner said that this new consumer financial protection agency would have only one mission and that is to protect consumers. it is also my understanding that this proposal would eliminate the consumer protections at the fdic, the federal reserve board, the comptroller of the currency, and the impact on the ftc, if perhaps we should explore expanding the authority of the ftc. another problem that concerns me about the proposed legislation is that there is no federal preemption of any state law that is more stringent than the federal law and anyone that is gone through a mortgage process and when they hand you the 45 pages of documents,

mr. bartlett there. he just walked in. mr. bartlett is recognized. >> you can go ahead with mr. whitfield. he was here before me. i am fine with that. >> mr. whitfield. >> we are all very polite so thank you very much. mr. chairman, i want to thank you also for holding yet another important hearing, examining the ongoing financial crisis in ways we can help our constituents get through these difficult times and medicate future problems. secretary geithner said that this new consumer financial protection agency would have only one mission and that is to protect consumers. it is also my understanding that this proposal would eliminate the consumer protections at the fdic, the federal reserve board, the comptroller of the currency, and the impact on the ftc, if perhaps we should explore expanding the authority of the ftc. another problem that concerns me about the proposed legislation is that there is no federal preemption of any state law that is more stringent than the federal law and anyone that is gone through a mortgage process and when they hand you the 45 pages of documents,

mr. bartlett. >> i have questions for the author or the council. you talk about a voluntary payroll deduction. how does one have a voluntary payroll deduction? that would seem to be mandatory. >> basically it's an opt out is the way would be set up. >> so it was taken out unless they opted not to? >> that's my understanding if the council wants to talk about it a little bit more. >> obviously that provision isn't within the committee's jurisdiction but the way the proposal is conceived as i understand is much like you would decide to elect one benefit or another from your own impleader and have the employer, you would choose whether to have the employer withhold a certain amount and in this case would be the federal government choosing -- you would be adopted into the program to provide long-term care benefits of the sort unless you opted out and then the federal government would no longer withhold funds. >> if i can reclaim my time -- it's actually my time belli will yield to you. >> nothing happens with this on leslie's and means essentially pass

mr. bartlett. >> i will yield some of my time, but i will insist on a point of order. i will use the same role and the same logic that mr. polo and used on mr. burgess' liability. ty. in his long term health care section, there is clearly an item on page three, line ten established mechanisms for collecting and distributing payments. that is clearly jurisdictional lee, totally within the ways and means committee. so if dr. burgess liability language was not germane by some jurisdictional total within the judiciary committee this section is not germane because it is totally within jurisdiction of the ways and means committee. so, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, mr. chairman. and i would, i would yield to mr. shadegg or mr. buyer because they have concerns -- >> with the gentleman yield to me? >> sure, i will yield to mr. pallone before i yield to mr. shadegg. >> i just want to say very briefly that this was written specifically to avoid the problem that you are raising by saying that the program does not go into effect until and unless the sec