seven years ago, mr. bates told a jury what he saw. he testified against matt. tonight he tells us. we spoke by phone a short time ago. >> reporter: so lee, you're one of the people who knows exactly just how dangerous rick matt is. you have seen what he's capable of. what's going through your mine knowing he is on the run? >> wow. wow. it's probably the biggest question on everybody's mind. you've got a dangerous criminal and sometimes you don't know if you're safe, what his next move is, and it is like reliving a nightmare over and over and over again. just seeing him on tv. >> he, people have described him as psychotic, he is obviously a killer. can you please explain what you have seen him do? what you know he is capable of? >> i would explain, i would, the better definition is evil. it doesn't matter a religion, but if you wanted to take a picture of the devil, that's the face that you would see. and yes, i have seen him kill. he did kill mr. rickerson, his old boss, in my presence. and it's disturbing. you know? it is not something that you want to see in life. it is difficult

mr. rickerson by his head and snapped his neck in front of me. >> bates says he was afraid of richard matthen and is still afraid of him now. >>> a dramatic new development this morning in texas. a police officer at the center of that pool party melee, ma police officer pulling his gun on those teenagers, he is stepping down. protesters have been called for corporal eric case's badge and called for his resignation after he drew that gun on the unarmed teens. one is happy that casebolt has resigned. >> i feel he could have done way better and performed better and done better toward teens in this situation. just like in the video, his peers were working way better more appropriately than he was. >> again he has resigned and his boss saying his behavior is not defensible. here is nick valencia in mckinney. >> reporter: the huge news on tuesday night the resignation of eric casebolt showing him wrestling a young teenage girl to the ground. at police chief of the mckinney police department came own awe said his actions were indefensible. the 12 officers that responded to the incident on friday

mr. rickerson by his head and snapped his neck in front of me. >> bates says he was afraid of richard matt then and is still afraid of him now. >>> a dramatic new development this morning in mckinney, texas. a police officer at the center of that pool party melee has stepped down. a police officer pulling his gun on those teenagers. a witness is happy that casebolt has resigned. >> i feel he could have done way better and performed better and done better toward teens in this situation. just like in the video, his peers were working way better, more appropriately than he was. for the very latest let's turn to cnn's nick valencia who is in mckinney. >> reporter: the huge news on tuesday night the resignation of eric casebold showing him wrestling a young teenage girl to the ground over the weekend. the police chief of the mckinney police department came out and said his actions were indefensible. he said of the 12 officers that responded to the incident on friday, 11 of them acted appropriately,\but eric casebolt was not one of them. >> eric casebolt has resigned from the mckinney police dep

bates remembering matt shoving a knife sharpener in his victim's ear. >> i have seen him kill. he did kill mr. rickerson, his old boss in my presence in a fit of rage he reached in to the car, grabbed mr. rickerson by his head and snapped his neck in front of me. >> richard matt had escaped prison before. in 1996, he broke out of an erie county jail to be caught and sentenced to a mx mum security prison in else mmirelmira, new . >> he is a master manipulator that knows the prison system, the streets, street smarts, and is a very cunning and dangerous individual. certainly he planned that just as well as he did back many years ago when he escaped from a prison up here near buffalo. >> reporter: what may have made the escape somewhat easier this time around is the fact that richard matt and david sweat were housed in what's called the honor block at clinton correctional facility, a prison block reserved for inmates who have gone years without significant disciplinary problems. the honor block has its privileges, like hot plates and refrigerators in cells. here prisoners are also allowed to cong

mr. rickerson by his head and snapped his neck in front of me. >> you actually saw that? you heard the? >> yes, i did, sir. >> it was batesy about the crime that helped prosecutors get richard matt a sentence of 25 years to life. meanwhile, there's another new development in the manhunt for these two convicted killers who escaped from that maximum security prison. we'll have details of that when we come back. >>> willsboro, new york, is one of the areas where there was a possible sighting of the escaped convicts richard matt and david sweat. the town is about 30 miles or so south of the clinton correctional facility, that's the maximum security prison. on the line joining us right now is sean gilla slandland, the town supervisor. sean, what's happened over the past 24 hours in your town? are they still there, the law enforcement authorities, en masse? >> yes, they are. they've redeployed somewhere between 50 and 100 corrections officers again today. they're on the ground and pretty much the same area that they were working yesterday. you know looking in every structure and going through the woods and swamps and fields and