. >> mr. bauer, you make such an interesting point there, this is a president who delights in the attention, in the televised event, when he introduced his supreme court justice, it was very much prime time tv. as you point out, this is the opposite. this is at a time when even people who hear about it or who have a negative recollection, in many parts of united states tonight we've been reporting, people literally cannot worry about any news as they figure out what to do in southern texas and the gulf. it's very much in that sense directly distracting. this also comes on another big story that rachel's been reporting and that we're going to get to later in the hour, these brand-new subpoenas, the first grand jury subpoenas issued by bob mule and her publicly disclosed, you wrote if the president does pardon arpaio, he will do so in the belief that it will be all political gain and no cost, he will be wrong. an act of this kind cannot fail to affect mueller and his team as they investigate obstructi

mr. bauer was part of a form at the commonwealth club of california looking at private m. public prisons. >> good evening everyone. my name is mina kim. i'm on the friday host of forum and i'm really glad that marissa is not my editor. i had to keep my question to 15 words, my gosh. welcome to tonight's program at the commonwealth club. tonight's program tackles the questions surrounding and whether private prisons help or harm the functioning of our criminal justice system. this is an important question because private prisons have been making a comeback under president trump. they are poised grow under his law and order approach to things and also his immigration policies. already in february the tenth administration reversed last year's obama administration directive to phase out privately run federal prisons and the two biggest private prison companies since election day. those companies are the geogroup and course attack formerly corrections of americorps cca. we have an incredible panel joining us tonight. shane bauer is a senior reporter for "mother jones" that he s

. >> a moment ago it was statemented by mr. bauer that the president has stated in the past that he do not want any affiliation with any group that promotes hate. that was true on the campaign trail but what needs to happen at this moment in american history particularly from the demonstration of violence we saw today, he should have made that clear to the american people today, not as running for president, but as president of the united states. >> can you see any reason why he wouldn't have done that? could it have been unintentional for this backlash to come because his remarks didn't hit the mark? >> well, you know what's at risk here quite frankly for the president and what the perception of the american people is, to be honest with you, he did not respond to it and he did not call this group out because many americans, as many of your guests have stated here today, very believe that is much of his base, and not just his base that you saw out in the street of charlottesville, but those who are at home hiding behind their twitter

mr. bauer was part of a form at the commonwealth club of california looking at private m. public prisons. >> good evening everyone. my name is mina kim. i'm on the friday host of forum and i'm really glad that marissa is not my editor. i had to keep my question to 15 words, my gosh. welcome to tonight's program at the commonwealth club. tonight's program tackles the questions surrounding and whether private prisons help or harm the functioning of our criminal justice system. this is an important question because private prisons have been making a comeback