mr. bennet: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from colorado. mr. bennet: thank you, mr.america. it's appropriate, i think, that we should be here on this issue, on this issue today because over the coming months and years we are going to be confronting a lot of choices to make. i think it's critically important that as we make these choices, we do it in a way that is consistent with our values. mr. president, throughout our history, generations of americans have tried to secure our heritage as a nation of immigrants and a nation committed to the rule of law. both of those are important. and when we have fallen short, which we have from time to time, we have battled back to reclaim these moral values. p our enduring commitment to this imperfect but principled work is why 21st century america has one of the most dynamic economies, vibrant cultures, and an important reputation throughout the world as a beacon of freedom. that reputation, by the way, is not assured. that is a reputation that has to be earned by our nation every single day, mr. president. although our founder

mr. bennet, no. the clerk: mr. kennedy, aye. the clerk: ms. hirono, no. the clerk: mr. scott of south carolina, aye. mr. booker, no. the clerk: mr. sullivan, aye. the clerk: ms. slotkin, aye. the clerk: mr. coons, no. ms. cantwell, no. the clerk: mr. cramer, aye. the clerk: mr. hoeven, aye. the clerk: mr. hagerty, aye. the clerk: mr. cassidy, aye. mr. young, aye. the presiding officer: the yeas are 59, the nays are 34. the nomination is confirmed. mr. thune: mr. president. the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. thune: i ask unanimous consent that with respect to the nome nomination, the motion to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table that the mandatory quorum call with respect to the bessent nomination be waived. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection. the clerk will report the motion to invoke cloture. the clerk: cloture accordance with the provisions of rule 22 of the standing rules of the senate, do hereby bring to a close debate on the nomination of scott bessent, of south carolina, to be secretary the treasury, signed

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. mr. fetterman. mrs. fischer. mr. gallego. mrs. gillibrand. mr. graham. mr. grassley. mr. hagerty. ms. hassan. mr. hawley. mr. heinrich. mr. hickenlooper. ms. hirono. mr. hoeven. mrs. hyde-smith. mr. johnson. mr. kaine. mr. kelly. mr. kennedy. mr. kim. mr. king. ms. klobuchar. mr. lankford. mr. lee. mr. lujan. ms. lummis. mr. markey. mr. marshall. mr. mcconnell. mr. mccormick. mr. merkley. mr. moran. mr. moreno. mr. mullin. ms. murkowski. mr. murphy. mrs. murray. mr. ossoff. mr. padilla. mr. paul. mr. peters. mr. reed. mr. ricketts. mr. risch. ms. rosen. mr. rounds. mr. rubio. mr. sanders. mr. schatz. mr. schiff. mr. schmitt. mr. schumer. mr. scott of florida. mr. scott of south carolina. mrs. shaheen. mr. sheehy. ms. slotkin. ms. smith. mr. sullivan. mr. thune. mr. tillis. mr.

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. >> miss blunt the clerk: ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker.r. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. mr. fetterman. mrs. fischer. mr. gallego. mrs. gillibrand. mr. graham. mr. grassley.

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. mr. fetterman. mrs. fischer. mr. gallego. mrs. gillibrand. mr. graham. mr. grassley. mr. hagerty. mr. hagerty. [inaudible conversations] [cheers and applause] oh, my goodness. we've got this from years and years ago and days ago from here. oh, i talked to so many of you who have holiday parties but i have sickened i am so proud of our team and this is a team that spans many years of doing extraordinary work on the half of the people. and as you all have heard me say many times, i am fully aware that i am the public face of a lot of our work, and so i have the benefit of running into people all over our country. and i will tell you i am fully aware that when they are thanking me they are thanking our team for the extraordinary commitment that you each have an as the team has two lifting up

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. ms. duckworth. my administration has begun the largest the regulation campaign in history are exceeding record-setting efforts of my last term. in total, the biden administration imposed $80000 in additional regulatory costs the average american household over the last four years. i promised to eliminate ten regulations for every regulation which will put many thousands of dollars back in the pockets of american families. to further unleash majorities in the house and senate which we took a long with the presidency reported past the largest tax cut in american history including massive tax cuts for workers and families and tax cuts for domestic producers and manufacturers working with the democrats on getting an extension of the original tax cuts by reading any paper. my message to every business is

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. i humbly submit for you nominated to serve as the 17th administrator of the environmental protection agency. the american people made their voices heard in november giving president trump a mandate to lead our nation to prosperity. i am grateful that the president-elect is giving me the opportunity to lead the epa at this critical time. our mission is simple and essential to protect human health and the environment. we must do everything in our power to harness the greatness of the american innovation, but the greatness of american conservation and environmental stewardship. we must ensure we are protecting the environment while also protecting our economy. throughout my life i've been privileged to hold such titles as congressman and state senator lieutenant colonel nunn has m

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. the clerk: mr. blumenthal. the clerk: ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. the clerk: mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. the clerk: mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. mr. fetterman. mrs. fischer. mr. gallego. mrs. gillibrand. mr. graham. mr. grassley. mr. hagerty. ms. hassan. mr. hawley. mr. heinrich. mr. hickenlooper. ms. hirono. mr. hoeven. mr. husted. mrs. hyde-smith. mr. johnson. mr. justice. mr. kaine. mr. kelly. mr. kennedy. mr. kim. mr. king. ms. klobuchar. mr. lankford. mr. lee. mr. lujan. ms. lummis. mr. markey. mr. marshall. mr. mcconnell. mr. mccormick. mr. merkley. mrs. moody. mr. moran. mr. moreno. mr. mullin. ms. murkowski. mr. murphy. mrs. murray. mr. ossoff. mr. padilla. mr. paul. mr. peters. mr. reed. mr. ricketts. that phrases misnomer. any members of this committee have served in combat and last 25 years can include men and women. i'm sure all those men served servicewomen whe

mr. bennet.e knows it is rare for a nominee to come to the capital for his own confirmation will it's a simple majority closely divided chamber nothing is simple were expecting republican senator susan collins of maine and lisa murkowski to vote no leader voted in favor in the nomination previously was speculation about another pairth republicans mitch mcconnell in north carolina thom tillis have indicated how the vote even though both voted to advance pete hegseth nomination earlier this week reportedly this afternoon senator tillis had additional questions for the nominee and pete hegseth was attempting to answer them with the spokesperson for the nominee saying all additional questions have been asked and answered this policy or bruising clinic committee confirmation hearing earlier this month which you can watch in its entirety online on a website at c-span.org. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. mr. fetterman. mrs. fisch

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. >> good morning everybody. welcome to the grand finale.d davos on a high note and i am so excited and honored to be here. i'm hosted cnbc. we are going to have a conversation everybody has been waiting for. the global debate in the global outlook on the economy. obviously we have a tremendous line appear the minister for economy and planning. and saudi arabia, thank you. larry sealant founder of blackrock. kristine is the president of the ecb. the president of singapore thank you all for joining us. this has been very interesting for there's so much optimism around president trump, policies and the u.s. outlook. i sort of wonder as an asset manager, as a risk manager should weto take the other side? are you worried everyone's too excited right now? larry? >> it is hard to hear. >> i was just asking if there's too much optimism around the u.s. outlook and whether that was worrisome? >> think you now i can hear you. is there too much optimism in the u.s.? no. but that being said there is risk in every economy. i can say much more forcibly th

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. they will sort and offer arnold one one is also enforcement will have coaches for modular filing system out this goal of the louisiana national guard to zero will build six formal blown will and they are not there today/. you previously and likely already in the department is affected by wildfires from okaloosa closely with them today respond this. secretary allison will. the ten euros commanders and it is in on. working and the ten. it is pretty odd. >> in the state of california they increase the number and clean as far forward as we can and we whatever the federal agencies and they are already we in to be introduced in a choreographed way and they are already a complex situation and they will be incorporated zero the critical especially with aircraft and it can be a factor. >> can you update us on the transition in the building? >> still continue to see schedule meetings. there have been upwards of approximately 160 mee

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. mr. cruz. mr. curtis. mr. daines. ms. duckworth. >> i rise in support of sean duffy to be secretary of transportation. last week congressman duffy was reported favorably out of the commerce committee without a single no vote. all 28 members of the commerce committee republicans and democrats voted in favor of august and duffy. two weeks ago congressman duffy appeared before the commerce committee for nearly three hours for two rounds of questions. his family seated behind him and he thoughtfully and ably answered the questions put forth by all of the members of the committee. the resounding bipartisan support for his nomination supports republicans and democrats believe congressman duffy is imminently qualified to serve as the secretary of transportation. transportation is not republican. it's not democrat. transportation is for all americans from

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. >> good morning everybody. i welcome all of you to this very important hearing to consider the nomination of former florida attorney general pam bondi. she is serving as the 87th attorney general of the united states after her approval. congratulations to your nomination ms. bondi and thank you for your willingness to serve. i think senator durbin for his leadership as chairman of the committee over the last four years although he and i have differences own policies i think the public could say we worked well together on many issues over the years. as he steps into his role as ranking member i will work closely with senator durbin to serve the american people. i also would like to welcome three brand-new members of the committee and repeating his service here after his stint off. i welcome to the committee senator bret, senator schmidt, senator crepeau and senator schiff. welcome. [applause] before you get started i'd like to set up a couple of ground rules. i want to handle

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mrs. britt. the clerk: mr. budd mr. budd. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cassidy. ms. collins. mr. coons. mr. cornyn. ms. cortez masto. mr. cotton. mr. cramer. mr. crapo. the clerk: mr. cruz. mr. curtis mr. daines. ms. duckworth. mr. durbin. ms. ernst. mr. fetterman. mrs. fischer. mr. gallego. mrs. gillibrand. mr. graham. mr. grassley. mr. hagerty. ms. hassan. mr. hawley. mr. heinrich. mr. hickenlooper. ms. hirono. mr. hoeven. every time i went to church with him was packed. started before sunrise and i was thankful that it got to walk in with my grandmother. esses we sat down, sunday school would start. my grandpa always been asking if he wanted into his church before. my grandma and i raise our hands. and then my grandfather would pull the congregation and we quickly found out that the church was full of people from all over the country to alter the backgrounds and beliefs. my grandfather address the most diverse sunday school class ever assembled, again. before he would deliver his bible lesso

guest: it does not sound like senator bennet is ready to confirm mr. kennedy. i think the president selected mr. kennedy because of the compelling message around make america healthy again. host: which we will talk about. i want to ask you do you believe he is qualified for the position? guest: i do. he was selected by the president. host: do you believe he is qualified because he was selected by the president or because of his qualifications? guest: i think both. it is a really important position. i think that mr. kennedy brings attributes and skills to that position that are going to be a good fit. host: make america healthy again. walk us through some of those key points. guest: i think it is diagnosing the state of american health. if you look at many measures of american health, one of the principal ones being life expectancy, we have been in decline. starting in 2014, for three straight years, life expectancy in the u.s. decline. and then of course, we had the pandemic and the tragedy around the pandemic. life expectancy is lower now than it was a decade

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman.thank you for joining us at. my name is jennifer i am that chairwoman of the national transportation safety board. the national transportation safety board is an independent federal agency that's charged by congress with investigating every civil aviation series accident serious incident in the united states and significant events and other modes of transportation. i want to start breaks pressing our deepest condolences, our sympathy on behalf of the entire board for those who lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy. our thoughts, our prayers are with you. entire communities were affected and we are thinking of you. with me today is a price banning. bryce is a senior aircraft in that accident investigation without national transportation safety board is going to serve as our investigator in charge of this investigation. also with me today is the entire board we have taught is going to serve as the board member on scene. the spokesperson for this investigation all of the board numbers

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. ms. blunt rochester. mr. booker. mr. boozman.[applause] [applause] [chanting] usa, usa, usa, usa. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] and good morning. the hearing will come to order. the committee on armed services has convened this hearing to consider the pending nomination of mr. pete hegseth to be secretary of defense. and at this point in light of the continued suffering and death in and around los angeles, california i'm going to ask my colleagues and those in the audience to observe a moment of silence. thank you. i also want to take this opportunity to thank my good friend ranking member jack rood. this is my first opportunity to cheer this committee in this congress. i want to thank senator reed under his chairmanship he proved time after time that he cares deeply about national security and about the united states of america and particularly the men and women who wear the uniform here and around the world to protect the united states. senator reed that want to thank you for your

mr. bennet. the clerk: about a love for the outdoors. every job i had required showering at the end of the day, not the beginning of the day and worked my way through undergrad which i loved because you could move up fast and stay in the black perfect career. had an opportunity nose working in chicago and i saw my first apple computer and that was the moment i said i need to get into the software business. i got the software started up. we grew to global to 1000 members, serving 140,000 businesses in 140 countries around the world. i spent my career in north dakota we share geography with five sovereign tribal nations. the current partnership strong. sincere willingness to listen. i'm grateful to many revelations expressing their support for my nomination. the goal of yielding a return on public education including energy research and overseeing billions of dollars in these are parallel to interior and modern conservation. badlands first significant we've got great prairies, amazing hunting and fishing. the lowest unemployment in the nat

mr. kennedy: i probably did say that. that is -- sen. bennet: i want all of our colleagues to hear it, mr. kennedy. you said yes. did you say that exposure to pesticides causes children to become transgender? mr. kennedy: i never said that. sen. bennet: i have the record that i will give to the chairman and he can make his judgment about what you said. did you write in your book and it is undeniable that african aids is an entirely different disease from western aids? yes or no? mr. kennedy: i'm not sure. sen. bennet: i will give it to the chairman. and my final question, did you say on a podcast, and i quote, " i wouldn't leave abortion to the states. my belief is we should leave it to the woman. we shouldn't have the government involved, even if it is full-term." did you say that? mr. kennedy: senator i believe every abortion is a tragedy -- sen. bennet: did you say it, mr. kennedy? it doesn't matter what you come here and say that isn't true, that is not reflective of what you really believe. that you haven't said over decade after decade af

mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. >> good morning, everybody. welcome. so we're going to have a hearing with mr. vought, right? russell vought like voting, right? >> yes, sir. >> i'm going to get a quick introduction. you can say anything you want. we're going to five-minute questioning, the hard, challenging, don't make a complete aspect of yourself and let's get through this thing. [laughing] so with that said, your no stranger to this job. mr. vought had this job, he was deputy director. he was omb director president trump's first term. he was born in mount vernon, new york, and attended wheaton college, graduating in idea, completed his j. d. from georgetown university. he worked on capitol hill, legislative senate, assistant for senator phil gramm and chuck hagel. big delta there. from 2004-2008 he worked as executive thousand eight he worked as executive director for the republican study committee. 2009, 2010 policy director of the housing, houseam republican conference here again he was omb director under the first trump term, deputy and became om

mr. ratcliffe: thank you, senator bennet. i enjoyed the chance to visit with you and talk about a number issues. as you know from my background, i came from congress. i was on an oversight committee. the house permanent select committee on intelligence. and so i think it gives me a unique perspective. i brought that over as d.n.i. and if confirmed as c.i.a. director. i have the perspective of both the executive branch and the legislative branch. and i will confess that one of the things i was disappointed in was the fact that despite being on a congressional oversight committee on intelligence communities, there was so much intelligence that i knew no member of congress was aware of from d.n.i. and i think that that sort of speaks to my approach and understanding that i take seriously the obligation that i will have as -- if confirmed as c.i.a. director, to keep this committee fully and currently informed on intelligence issues. it's not that this committee or any intelligence committee or any oversight committee in congress

bennet: thank you, mr. chairman. chair burr: thank you. i would note that he said earlier to your question that he did not believe they were running amok. i think we were just having a -- rep. ratcliffe: i did. chair burr: what the thought was. senator sasse. rep. ratcliffe: -- sen. bennet: thank you. thank you, congressman. congressman ratcliffe. thank you. sen. sanders: -- sasse: thank you, mr. chairman. congressman, congratulations on your nomination. senator cornyn underscored the i think it's very important and -- cornyn underscored the will hurd op-ed. i think it's very important and i hope that folks here read that as well. congressman hurd is obviously widely respected on these issues. thanks for the time that we had over the last few weeks. in the classified section, i'm going to ask you some more questions to press you on whether you think the odni works right now, whether it's a functioning bureaucratic layer or whether it's an encum brance. whether the post 9/11 reasons that it was created are actually being advanced. but one o

bennet. >> i'm asking you yes or no, mr. kennedy, did you say that covid-19 was a genetically engineered bioweapon that targets black and white people but spared ashkenazi jews and chinese people? >> i didn't say it was deliberately targeted, i just -- i just quoted an nih funded, an nih-published study. >> stephen: about that study: the washington post fact-checked it and said the study in reference did not state those conclusions. well, to quote shakespeare, "you can't just say you're quoting someone and then make up whatever you want, ya numb nuts." [applause] beautiful. you can't just quote somebody. but the highlight of the hearing was when senator bernie sanders confronted kennedy about a group that kennedy founded which sells anti-vax merch. >> you have started a group called the children's health defense. you're the originator. right now as i understand it, on their website, they are selling what's called onesies. these are little things, clothing for babies. >> stephen: "these things, it's a onesie, not to be confus

. >> senator bennet. >> mr. bessent, thank you for being here. mr., as i always have. mr. bessent, thank you for your willingness to serve. we are at the beginning of what's going to be a vigorous conversation about the country's fiscal health. you described our deficit as alarming, and yet you're here with the same trump tax policy tata has burdened the american people -- that has burdened the american people with another $232 trillion of debt that theit their kids and grandkids are going to have to pay back. and despite the conversation we've heard over here, clearly, you know, the distribution of it was deeply, deeply, deeply unfair. 50% of it went to the top 5% of americans, 75 you add the s.a.l.t. which even "the wall street journal" won't support becausest so unbelievably outrageous, will go to to the wealthiest 5 of americans. the tax policy is one that's -- it is for some reason in this room it makes sense to people. in america i don't think there's been a mayor in the history of the united states whose tax policy has been to go to the people

his conflicting stances on abortion with democrats like senator michael bennet of colorado using kennedy's own words against him. >> mr. kennedy, did you say. that covid 19 was a. genetically engineered bioweapon that targets black and white people, but spared ashkenazi. jews and chinese people? >> i didn't say it was deliberately targeted. covid 19 is targeted to attack caucasians and black people. the people who are most immune are ashkenazi jews and chinese. >> did you say lyme. >> disease is a highly. >> likely militarily. engineered bioweapon? >> i probably did say that. it's another thing that keeps us from enjoying the outdoors and keeps us locked inside. and the idea that this may have been is highly likely to have been a military weapon. >> did you say that exposure. >> to pesticides. >> causes children to. >> become transgender? >> no, i never said that. the capacity for these chemicals that we are just raining down on our children right now to induce these very profound sexual changes in them is something we need to be thinking about as a society. >> did you. >> say. >> on a podcast? >> and i quote, i would

guest: it does not sound like senator bennet is ready to confirm mr. kennedy. the president selected mr. kennedy because of the compelling message around make america healthy again. host: which we will talk about. i want to ask you do you believe he is qualified for the position? guest: i do. he was selected by the president. host: do you believe he is qualified because he was selected by the president or because of his qualifications? guest: i think both. it is a really important position. i think that mr. kennedy brings attributes and skills to that position that are going to be a good fit. host: make america healthy again. walk us through some of those key points. guest: i think it is diagnosing the state of american health. if you look at many measures of american health, one of the principal ones being life expectancy, we have been in decline. starting in 2014, for three straight years, life expectancy in the u.s. decline. and then of course, we had the pandemic and the tragedy around the pandemic. life expectancy is lower now than it was a decade ago. i t

bennet: thank you for your generosity, mr. chairman.nging in there for this discussion, colonel gabbard. the house intelligence committee review of the snowden disclosures found not only that he was a traitor but that since snowden's arrival in moscow, he has had and continues to have contact with russian intelligence services. you can see the deep concern on both sides of the aisle here. you had in your opening statement all kinds of complaints about former officials, intelligence agencies, united states press, journalists, media, democrats. suggested you were not being treated fairly when you are coming here. no condemnation at all for this comment which leads me to wonder why it is so hard for you to say edward snowden was a traitor to our country and the question i guess i have for you is, how if you can't say that, you feel that the concerns that this committee has -- that we need somebody here who will actually honor their oath as you said. maybe i should make it easier. edward snowden did not honor his oath to the constitution, w

senator bennet: thank you for being here. mr. chairman, congratulations on your position rate i look forward to working with you as i always have. mr. bessent, thank you for your willingness to serve. we are at the beginning of what will be a vigorous conversation about the country's fiscal health and you described your deficit as alarming. and yet you are here with the same trump tax policy that has burdened the american people with another $2 trillion in debt that their kids and grandkids are going to have to pay back, and despite the conversation we have heard over here, clearly the distribution of it was deeply unfair. 50% of it went to the top 5% of americans. 75% of it if you add the salt, which even the wall street journal won't support because it is so unbelievably outrageous will go to the wealthiest 5% of americans. the tax policy is one that is for some reason in this room it makes sense to people. in america i don't think there has been a mayor -- whose tax policy has been to go to the people of new york city or atlan

mr. kennedy: i did not say that. sen. murphy: senator bennet asked you yesterday if you had made an allegation that aids is a different disease in africa than in america. now having had a day to think about it, do you recall saying that aids is a different disease in africa than in the united states? mr. kennedy: i looked up that passage in my book and found indeed the diagnostics for aids are very different in africa than in the united states. the list of symptoms is almost completely different. sen. murphy: i will submit this for the record, but having denied the first two statements, let me read what you said. you said in 2013, is it hyperbole to say the people who run our vaccine programs should be in jail? they should be in jail. to me this is like nazi death camps. look at what it does to the families who participate in the vaccine program. i can't tell why somebody would do something like that. i can't tell you why ordinary germans participated in the holocaust. i can't tell you what was going on in their minds. with respect to the pedop