that was the theory that mr. benny and others have put their name to back in july and somehow or another clearly caught the president's attention. >> mr. benny has become a controversial figure in and of himself. he is either a truth teller whistle-blower or a conspiracy theorist. how does he size up in your estimation? >> on this side of the atlantic and polarization in u.s. politics on this issue, things can be perhaps more nuanced. i have respect for mr. benniment he was not a whistle-blower for many years after he took a stance to leave his employer. and with his enormous experiment in seniority and carefully considered criticisms he made an important contribution to the debate. this summer i think there has been nine months of noise and attempts to push this theory or that theory just to explain it wasn't the russians. most of those attempts from what i have seen actually failed. but it was continuous. and eventually the dam broke and some of the people who had properly criticized the agencies for the iraq invasio

that is why i strongly support missile benny's effort -- mrs. e benny's effort, and reason we are going through this frustration is because we are order, and we have not, as mr. roscoe has indicated, allowed the opportunity for one another to go back and forth. that mr. kelly, who has led the effort on the republican side, who has gotten 79 cosponsors -- >> 201. democrats,, 100 plus but you lead that effort to bring your colleagues along. i commend you for that. what has happened here -- and as you indicated and i think you are illustrating our frustration as well. is the same kind of amendment process that mr. neil asked the very poignant question just before we were about to begin, that we have a dark and abiding suspicion that we may be reveals offurther the affordable care act because as we have been meeting here and people have been meeting elsewhere behind closed doors instead of in regular order, we are told that what we are going to do is fall or regular order -- follow regular order throughout this -- regular order only means bundling pe

mr. bennie, you are recognized to speak on the amendment. >> thank you, mr. chair. we actually had this conversation yesterday, mr. barthold and i want to highlight it again because i think some of my colleagues are still struggling to understand why this amendment is so important. i asked you ned if a firefighter in my district would be able to deduct the state and local sales taxes that she pays from her tax returns and let's say today can she do that? >> you are from the state of washington, there is no income tax that individual -- >> state and local sales taxes is actually what i said. >> -- he lake effect the sales tax election. >> okay. >> if the total itemized deductions exceed the standard deduction amount -- >> yes, she can deduct those today. >> that's correct. >> but under this plan will that firefighter be able to deduct those sales taxes? >> she would not. >> okay. so this changes. she has lost the ability to deduct those sales taxes from her federal income taxes under this plan. >> that's correct. >> so will a corporation be able to deduct sales taxes

mr. reichert withdraws the point of order. miss del benny is recognized on the amendment. >> thank you, mr. chairman. when chairman brady was advancing the path act last congress, a bill that i supported, he said, quote, as we all know too well, how our country manages its tax code makes absolutely no sense. how can families and local businesses count on tax relief each year, as long as congress can't decide what's permanent and what's not? he also said, americans will no longer have to worry each december if congress will take action to extend certain tax relief measures that they have come to rely on. end quote. now here we are. two years after that bipartisan legislation passed, with the chairman's praises for delivering certainty to families, staring down -- now staring down at a partisan bill with provisions that will expire, leaving working families with a tax increase. their piece of the bill for massive corporate tax cuts. meanwhile, we're doing nothing at all to address things like the cadillac tax. the permanent repeal of which has

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