mr. bergman and i think it's very much an expression for his own search for meaning.search for the truth, search for love, etc. it's funny, i think at the time i was searching, too, and i was a great doubter when i was young at that time and i remember we discussed, of course, religious matters very much between takes and i remember at one time i said "well, thisternal life i don't believe in this. we die and that'st." and he said "no, no, no, i promise you're wrg." "no, i don't believe. that" "you mean you will live somewhere after?" he said "yes, well, i'll show you. when i'm gone, i'll tell you." >> rose: (laughs) >> i have a different who once said to me i'm convinced there's no life after death and i said why are you convinced and she said to me because my mother was such a strong woman that after she died she would have found a way to communicate to me. and i haven't heard from her. >> well, i've heard from berkman many times. >> rose: you have? >> well... >> rose: in spirit. you've heard in spirit. >> yes. >> rose: tell me about it. >> i can't. >> rose: because