mr. bergmann. mr. lisenco. good morning chairman thune. my capacity as the american radio relay league for amateur radio. its approximate 175,000 members at the estate of iraq -- represent the interests of licensed amateurs for ham radio operators put amateur radio are experimenters and indicators but they were is also a very serious side to amateur radio. far more than a hobby. with their license from the fcc comes the responsibility to promote emergency -- during times of disaster. if it maintains number and understanding with the u.s. military fema and dhs are we provide emergency communications to the american red cross and the salvation army. the fema administrator craig fugate quote as much as we think we are sophisticated singer amateur radio in a crisis oftentimes is the one thing are still up and running a ham transmitting community can mean the difference with life-and-death imagery offers in included implants in every state in the union. the role played by disasters was on display o in 2017 when we saw four hurricanes make landf

mr. bergmann and mr. matheny, the questions raised and identified in the hawaii case focus more on alerting authorities and fema than the fcc and the alertingdy disseminay fors. >> yes, i would. i agree with the way you outlined it. the broadcast infrastructure worked. the transmission worked. the message did get out. unfortunately in this case it was a mistaken message. and so i think that as we've been discussing today, it requires us all, in particular on the fema side, to revisit who can generate an alert, and how that alert is generated. but as it relates to the dissemination and the transmission, i think, as you've stated, that piece of the process worked as designed. >> senator duckworth, i would agree as well, too. on the wireless side the alert was delivered exactly as intended. and i think one of the key focuses of this hearing is making sure we have public trust and confidence in the system. and i think we can certainly say we have that on the delivery side, understanding the committee's approp

mr. bergmann, let me ask you a real simple question here. if you're in a no service area on your phone, do you get these alerts? >> so you need to be within the coverage area in order to receive a wireless emergency alert, which really does put a premium on the conversation we were having earlier about make sure we're doing everything we can to make coverage available in rural areas. >> this is a major issue for us, not just on the wireless side but obviously on the broadband side. and we have, in our state, particular challenges because of the rural nature, but also the geographic nature of the state of west virginia makes it difficult. but when i can drive eight miles outside of my capital city and lose coverage, there's still a lot of work that needs to be done. i know you know this. so i just wanted to reemphasize that. and lastly i just tell a little story on december the 7th, 1941 my uncle was stationed at the schofield barracks in hawaii when pearl harbor was attacked. and my mother was 15 at the time. and the one story that she told

mr. lance berg. >> councillor tang: and if we can allow people to finish their sentences. >> sure. thank you. >> supervisors, i'm lance bergmann, representing the san francisco electrical contractors association. glad to see this plan moving forward and glad to see you giving it the attention it deserves. wanted to second the statements made by mario earlier about job quality and as we fast forward that we keep in mind the men and women who are going to be building it as well as staffing it and operating it. and to that point, i wanted to just speak a little bit more to mr. wartheim's discussion of prevailing wages. what i want to make sure that you all here understand is that prevailing wages is not just about wage levels. it's really a package of policies to not only provide construction workers with livable wages and protect them from competition, but it's a suite of policies to promote sustainable construction couriers and stabilize the industry. where it comes in and is valuable, is within the discussions of ab73. it gives us a roadmap for incorporating those standards into plan areas and really allowing us to take a much