mr. berman, let me stop with you. i don't want to use an antique metaphor, get the cart before the horse, because there are a lot of operational details. i'm thinking -- i applaud you guys for thinking crazy thoughts, but are you guys serious? >> well, you know, at amazon we like to think big. what's bigger than trying to get it delivered to the doorstep in 30 minutes? again, this is years away. there's a lot of work that needs to be done. we can temper things a bit, but as jeff said, we don't see this as science fiction, as something that's viability, yet years down the road. >> you build facilities like the one behind you on audacity and big thoughts and thinking craziyly, but speaking of crazy, i can see the guys from "duck dynasty" having an awful lot of fun with these drones? >> it remains to be seen how drones will react. we're excited about the potential. we're excited. the vehicles with a ten-mile radius. they'll be able to travel from a fulfillment center or another remote place we may establish and reach cus

mr. berman, we'll see you at the top of the hour. >> great to see you. >> great to see you on "the lead"ime, the pope had a high-level meeting at the vatican today. pope francis meeting with isr l israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. according to officials, they discussed the political situation in the middle east, and the possibility of renewed talks between israelis and palestinians. an israeli official told cnn last month, the pope plans to visit israel in late may. >> and a u.s. war veteran dragged off this plane, held captive in north korea, now releases this chilling and suspicious confession to supposed war crimes. >> on this trip, i can understand that in u.s. and western countries, there is misleading information and propaganda about gprk. >> now the u.s. is stepping up efforts to get merril newman free, along with kenneth bay. as appeals for their immediate release, you have the vice president joe biden, planning to visit the demilitarized zone between japan and china in his trip. >> forget the madness at the balls for black friday. no, no, no, how about ordering your gif

mr. berman. for having me, david. >> it's a key time in front of retailers. in august you shared a thought that has resounded for quite some time within retail, making it more complicated to understand what's happening. you are now sort of expanding on that when you look at retail, particularly on the impact of let's just call it the internet generally. what are you seeing? >> well, as we talked about in august and we feel it just gained momentum, we've seen what we call a new paradigm. people say what do you mean new paradigm, the internet's been around for a while. but this is a new paradigm. we felt strong enough in august that it was actually happening because june/july weren't really affected. the question is where is the weakness coming from, as is the case now. aren't things good in the economy? wages aren't so bad, inflation subdude, employment is better, gas prices are better. where are the sales? when we start looking at the numbers, we summarize every retailer every quarter and we say

mr. larson and john berman is here as well. >> i actually see this being -- >> drones. >> use those amazonhave drones deliver food to the table. >> i don't know that i want to eat at that -- it will be cheaper than anyplace else. we're seeing these pop up a lot in airports, in terminals. it speeds up, reduces the need for people. it reduces errors. if you're sitting down, you have 20 minutes to catch a flight, they can bring you a cheeseburger in ten minutes and know where you're sitting. i see this being good in terms of speeding things up. i don't see it as replacing the waiter. >> is there evidence it's being used? >> yes. >> i've seen them being used in airports. >> i've always seen them in airports. this is new we'll see them in an actual restaurant and restaurant chain. they have test marketed them in over 1,000 applebee's. what they've found -- >> that's what i wonder. do people like it? >> they're ordering more appetizers and more desserts. >> because of the picture menu. >> i want the bloomin' onion and you know the waiter is like, okay. and the tablet doesn't judge you. it's not