>> mr. berry mr. gilliland? >> thank you. thank you for the concern you express on the local tribal issues as well as the culture heritage issues. as a success story to be entered into the record, whatever carriers, worked with the tribes in new mexico to actually provide a tower that is commensurate with their historical and cultural acquisitions. we work closely with the -- thing with the surprising requirement to bring the service that was culturally acceptable. most of our carriers are smaller carriers, they live in the community. if they don't like something, you might hear it at church and you might hear it at the pta. we are very concerned about that. in the local context. but, we do believe that we need to have modification to section 106 because of the need and some of those tribal review requirements should be focused more on actual addressing historical cultural antiquities and preservation. it doesn't make any sense as brad mentioned, sometimes you file an application and two years later, you get approval and the

mr. berry. mr. boon. >> chairman wicker, ranking member schatz, and members of the senate committee on science, transportation, i'm robert debroux, drek r or the of public affairs in telecom. thank you for the opportunity to share insights on how congress can close the digital divide in rural america. i'm not only testifying today on behalf of tds, but also as a member of itta, a washington, d.c. industry association that includes tds as a member. tds owns 108 separate telephone companies that provide broadband, voice and video service. we serve a mix of rural and urban areas, such as the bottom of the grand canyon and islands off the coast of maine and michigan. as well as suburbs of larger cities, madison, wisconsin and nashville, tennessee. we also serve communities such as big creek, calhoun city, and sand hill in mississippi. tds has a long history of building and maintaining robust voice and data networks in its service areas. recently the administration released the framework for its inf

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mr. vogue. >> on the public sphere? certainly - a very influential strait is booking. it holds people that are like him. and equally influential, pick people like wendell berry and phil mckibben, in that realm. >> seeking any middle ground? >> true. >> who is in the middle ground? >> thank you. [applause] >> much more in "the wizard and the prophet". there are copies here. [inaudible conversations] .. military historian and investigative journalist david k johnson and many other authors. later in march it's the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville and the national black riders conference in brooklyn new york. in april, we are headed to texas for the san antonio book festival. it will be live at the festival of books. to watch previous festival coverage, click the book fair tab on our website, booktv.org. and now, on book tv, because of the current debate on gun policy, we will bring you a few programs on the subject. michael waldman examines the history and debate. sue is the mother of the columbine shooter dylan kriebel. hshe discusses her book. last david keene, a former head of the nra and conservative union and author of shall not be infringe

mr. vogt? >> in the public sphere? [laughter] >> very influential is bill gates so there are are people that-- and equally influential i would argue a prophet people like wendell berry and he could pick people like will mckibben. there are quite a few people in that realm. >> i'm thinking any kind of middle ground. who was working on the middleground? >> who is working on a middleground? charles mann. on that note, thank you. [applause] >> copies of "the wizard and the prophet" are available. please help off the staff by folding up your chairs. [inaudible conversations] >> afternoon. welcome to the heritage foundation. we of course welcome is those joining us on our heritage.org web site. for i guess in the house would ask that last courtesy to check your mobile devices are silent or turned off and of course for

chairman, and kudos to you, mr. berry, for the double clutching getting out of groundhog. we used to call it granny but you're probably more politically correct. my question is to mr. gillen, and that is it's been referred to before that we need to win the race to 5g. what constitutes a win? is that people covered? businesses covered? geographic area covered? what constitutes a win to 5g? >> for us it is that next generation of innovation and opportunity happened here first. so it is a matter of having enough scale that we have enough entrepreneurs and innovators to build off that platform. and so absolutely it will starts with the number of people covered in a timely manner. >> okay. so -- and, by the way, that's the definition i would expect. the number of people covered in one block of new york city is far more dhuntcounty that i liv and my county is bigger than a fair number of states. so the question is, is how do we get -- how do we get 5g in rural america? how do we get it there? the senator from nebraska talked about precision farming, but it's more than that. so ho

mr. keifer's expertise was available to any senator who asked for it, republican or democrat. and shanda, who's taken with her to these negotiations her vermont values and her long senate experience. and jessica berry, another native vermonter, who has fought form of my priorities and those of other members in this body in this spending bill. and jay toten, my committee press secretary, he's gotten the word out far and wide about the importance of this bill so that everybody, even though we works all night long many times, people would know exactly what we've been doing. and gene kwan, who's provided hours of support to the entire appropriations committee staff. i also want to thank the democratic subcommittee clerks for their support, the tireless efforts in crafting this bill. tim reeseer, jessica shulkin, doug clap, ellen murray, rachel taylor, alex, dabney hague. i us will want to thank my dear friend, one of the most senior republicans in this body, the chairman of the appropriations committee, thad cochran. it's been an honor and pleasure to serve with him. senator cochran and i have served together since 1978. we've worked together on appropriations matters, agriculture matters, every matter