mr. bersin: so, commissioner gil kerlikowske is in a position to indicate how we actually use intelligencessessments to search in a big data way for certain indicators, or certain facts that have been brought to our attention by intelligence, and then you can reduce the pool of potentially high-risk visitors or refugees, and then take action accordingly, but it is not -- it is not as precise as having a watchlist of high-risk persons, against which you then vet incoming biographic, or biometric information. luiza: commissioner, that was a handoff to you. can you also talk about what changes, if any, you have brought into more security policies in light of the 25,000 syrian refugees that have been taken in by canada? comm. kerlikowske: the one thing that is very important to understand is we have had this great working relationship with the government of canada. when assistant secretary bersin was the assistant secretary of order protection, he initiated a number of outreach efforts, and now with the new government, we believe that many of those are coming to fruition. so, our ability to ex

mr. bersin: there is a lot of rhetoric that, as the vice president indicated in a recent meeting, is not the american people are and i think the record simon talked about in terms of the refugee record, let alone the fact all of us are actually immigrants save for native americans. part of our history, part of the coulter. been the traditionally underside of the fact we are all immigrants. i wouldn't take that to suggest that the majority of americans that is need a wall high and mighty from san diego to brownsville. attest wesioner can have used walls in different places to assist in the security of the border by the notion of a well simply to wall people out is inconsistent with who we are as americans and our history and traditions. i would pass it off as a rhetorical device in an overheated electoral campaign. luiza: i heard it will be a beautiful wall. comm. kerlikowske: we have 18,000 border patrol agents on the southwest border, more than we have ever had. we have unmanned aircraft's, integrated fixed towers, radar, cameras, infrared. our apprehensions along the southwest border a