mr. bever?>> i was a very important lesson learned is listen carefully to our host country, come host country's civil society and host country private sector and to try to do what we to do what they want. and in that regard i think one of the lessons learned here in the case of afghanistan is how we have tried very hard to link our program to the afghan national develop an strategy. i was a on a more operational level from and accountability perspective, the lesson we've learned the hard way over time is that your ig is like your in house physician. you want him or her with you all the time that you may not like the procedures they use, but you want to know the results and diagnoses so you can deal with it. and so we have called in the ig for concurrent audit in our programs. they are resonant with us that we think this is the best practice for these kinds of programs. and the third i think would be to say -- will, to others. won his grant mechanisms. early in a convert, and you have learned is

mr. bever? >> i was a very important lesson learned is listen carefully to our host country, come host country's civil society and host country private sector and to try to do what we to do what they want. and in that regard i think one of the lessons learned here in the case of afghanistan is how we have tried very hard to link our program to the afghan national develop an strategy. i was a on a more operational level from and accountability perspective, the lesson we've learned the hard way over time is that your ig is like your in house physician. you want him or her with you all the time that you may not like the procedures they use, but you want to know the results and diagnoses so you can deal with it. and so we have called in the ig for concurrent audit in our programs. they are resonant with us that we think this is the best practice for these kinds of programs. and the third i think would be to say -- will, to others. won his grant mechanisms. early in a convert, and you have learned is

mr. bever i am not blaming the afghan corruption on you, far from it, 1 million miles from it but in a study of afghan electrical systems done by sigar and i have seen many writings on afghanistan so i want to ask you to be blunt and in an america we but the impact of afghan corruption on the u.s. taxpayer expenditures. i will read a couple of sentences or two to capture the flavor. corruption and the energy, this is sigar, corruption and energy system affects afghanistan's ability to collect revenue. according to usaid a major point of corruption in afghanistan is the electrical distribution systems process these according to the bank, numerous witnesses in afghanistan's management of the energy sector leavitt susceptible to corruption the bank cites examples of patronage from the ministry jobs, consumer expectations of bribes to pay for utility services and investor expectations of the demand and bribes. it's built in. would you agree we have numbers for what security costs in my back. we use

mr. bever, not to get an answer but an area that you're going to have to deal with or somebody over there is going to have to deal with is spot. you're going to have to figure out a way that is acceptable to usaid to intergrate yourself either into that system or some other system. the last point is just to reiterate what i said before. i think we've got a lot of momentum now on this activity. and if you guys don't figure out a way to take advantage of that, i can guarantee you what will happen. it will atrophy and die. >> commissioner schinasi? >> i'm just going to go back to resources for a minute. mr. bever, in your statement, you know, you said that your peak a.i.d. spending was $4.8 billion in 2003-2005. that's less than a week's spending by the department of defense. so -- i mean, that just gives you the idea of the magnitude of resources. and if you look at the fy2011 executive budget summary for state and a.i.d., you see that the foreign military assistance just to pick one is the bigge

mr. bever, would you run through -- do you want me to -- let me bring them in the order that i did. the s/crs? >> yeah -- >> is your mic on. >> yes. >> take the s/crs providing -- i'm sorry. i apologize. right, the joint stabilization. >> i think each of these has potentially some merits that bear more careful attention. my own view and this is my view, in the intergovernmental process is that each of our agencies our government works best when each of ice agencies work to its own comparative advantage. >> okay. thank you. >> and when our authorities are not usurped in such a way, where the authority rest is different from where the accountability -- >> let me say it in my terms to see if you agree. if everybody is in charge nobody is in charge? in other words, you feel you would have more accountability? i'm hearing you say you would have more accountability if you're in charge of the funds you're in charge in rather than grouping them in other funds? >> yes. this is why i like the notion of a