also, as mr. blake indicated in a very conservative manner, the one thing that people are really concerned about is will we be able to pay it back. what we're talking about is that service that would be on the order of 1% of the revenues of the agency, so not only with the instruments be very conservative, the amount of debt that we would be proposing to you -- very small relative to the resources of the agency. i do want to thank ms. bose and mr. blake for the presentation. we do think it is important that the board's fully understands the responsibilities that we would be undertaking. >> you approved the debt policy at the last meeting which very much constrains what we can and cannot do. i too was very clear on the parameters of debt, said that as further assurance that we will be very financially disciplined as we embark on this. director heinicke: my only question is procedure. i think this is clear, but at the beginning, you said we were on the verge of issuing debt. we are on the verge of conside