mr. blankfein, more topower to them. they don't seem to want to i don't think the sec can go after people who don't seem to be have in a conscious way involved in the transaction. >> brown: you wanted to weigh in on that one? >> well, yeah, one of the things i talked about in my book, the colossal failure of common sense, the inside story of the collapse of lehman brothers is during that period of our c.e.o., our c.e.o.'s tenure was about 15 years. so it was almost like a monarchy. at goldman sachs during that same 15 years where we had one c.e.o., they had almost, i think they had six. so you had a real change at goldman sachs. goldman sachs tends to, you know, when they run into difficulties, they tend to change the top management team. i think mr. blankfein's days could be numbered only because they'll try to put a good face forward and the public backlash of wall street and goldman sachs still might linger. and they might use that card to move forward. >> brown: now lawrence mcdonald, what do you expect next going fo