mr. blum? is it doctor blum? mr. blum? i always want to call you doctor. >> mr. blum. i think the -- believes and insurance commissioners that it's part and parcel to what a plan should be doing. it's not part of the benefit cost but the cost of a well-managed program. cms does permit collection to count toward the log if you find the right balance between the plan procedures that are part and parcel to running a plan, but we do allow plans to accomplish collection. >> miss lavell, a pretty good to-do list. not just the legislative branch but a bunch of us, including folks that are not in congress and are not cms. all right. doctor? >> mr. blum, let me just kind of get you on the record a little firmer here. cms supports the modification of part d program to establish a lock-in? >> i'd like to say to you, senator, we have no official position but i believe that it is time for congress to consider this change. >> cms doesn't have a position on that? >> i'm speaking for cms and i believe it's a time for congress to consider it. it's not part of the president's 2014 budge

. >> brown: >> if mr. blum live with that, he wouldn't have been behind the effort to challenge the voting rights act because, in fact, i just described a bailout provision in the voting rights act. the voting rights act has a bail-in provision. it allows jurisdictions that are not covered by section 5 of the act who have engaged in discrimination and who have been found by a judge to engage in discrimination to be bailed in. arkansas was bailed in for a time. new mexico was bailed in for a time. so any jurisdiction, including the jurisdictions you've identifyed who have engaged in voting practices that have been found by a judge to discriminate in voting can under the structures of section 5 be bailed into the voting rights act. the genius of the statute is that it has a door that goes both ways. the problem is that jurisdictions, many jurisdictions not v not simply done the job they need to do in order to be permitted to get out. >> suarez: but as you heard mr. blum point out, congress was also not using the

mr. blum's it's and they give us hope that we will have changes in the future. i also appreciate the work that the fraud prevention partnership has been doing. we have people in the room who have been instrumental in bringing the privates and the public and the agencies together. i have great hope that we will have a very successful partnership going forward. we have work to do. secondly, i want to reiterate and point out that the paradigm is changing for wellpoint. we no longer want to pay and chase. in doing so, we get 20-30 cents back on the dollar. the paradigm for us is prevention and to stop the dollar's from ever going out the door. with that, i want to point out that with the medical loss ratio, we are only allowed credit for collections which is counter intuitive to our new paradigm of savings. it actually encourages recoveries because that is the only credit we get. with our new paradigm, we hope that there may be some changing activities in mlr that will give us credit for the work we do. >> thank you for that. >> in closing, i want to make three poin

mr. o'reilly,ç is pren now, and decent education in the beginning. we have a bill in the assemble rightk5ñ fov introduced by assey member blum. rate in california is higher than car accident fatalities. we have nothing in place. >> bill: i agree that prevention, just sávzv no, what nancy reagan did is necessary, but i think you have to punish the poison dealer. >> no. >> bill: she isn't blaming the pusher. >> denise, i'm sorry about your loss, but if you think about it, maybe our children will still be alive today if that drug dealer didn't giveç the drug to our children. yes, it was my son's ian's choice to use drugs, but i wanted to get him off the streets, because i didn't want to see this happen to another family. we can't be a nation of enablers. it perpetuates the disease of addiction. >> bill: it's interesting there's such a sharp disagreement among good people. i have to tell you, ms. cullen, i know people killed by drugs, i know drug dealers, and the drug dealers are evil, in my opinion. >> mr. o'reilly, that's not where we should focus our attention. we should focus onç savings our kids now on better quality educa