mr. bopp served on the human fetal tissue research plain for the national institutes of health. mr. bopp has testified before numerous federal and state legislate tive committees, hearings on pro life issues and has argued before the united states supreme court. ms. pra sill la j. smith is director of the program for study of reproductive justice at the information society project at the yale law school. prior to joining the isp smith was an attorney with the center for reproductive rights for 13 years serving as the u.s. legal program director from 2003 to 2007 and litigated cases in addition wide. she conducts research and writes on privacy reproductive rights and justice and the information society. ms. melissaodon also survived abortion as baby. she is the founder of abortion survivors network. all of your written statements will be entered into the record in their entirety. i ask that each of you summarize your testimony in five minutes or less and to help you stay within that time there'

mr. bopp. ms. smith. in the precursor to the gonzalez case, the case of stenberg vs. carhart, justice kennedy dissented from the decision to strike down the partial-birth abortion ban. which was later upheld in the gonzalez case in a different ban. >> a different version, yes. chairman goodlatte: that's right. he described at length the testimony provided by abortionist leroy carhart about the alternative d&e method or dismemberment procedure. the fetus can be alive at the beginning of the dismemberment process. and can survive for a time while its limbs are being torn off. dr. carhart agreed that when you pull pout a piece of the fetus, let's say an arm or leg and remove that, at the time just prior to removal of the portion of the fetus, the fetus is alive. dr. carhart also has observed fetal heartbeat via ultrasound with extensive parts of the fetus removed. and testified that mere dismemberment of a limb does not always cause death because he knows of a physician who removed the arm of a f

mr. bopp, were you involved in the production of these videos. mr. bopp: i'm advised that this is not the subject -- >> i'm asking the question, were you involved in the production of the cmp videos, yes or no? mr. bopp: if the chairman permits me, i will answer the question. >> if the gentleman would like to answer the question, you can. >> you were not present at the time these videos were being shot him a were you asked and mark -- these videos were being shot, where you? and you haven't seen the videos in their unedited anti-ready? mr. bopp: no. >> based on your answers, you are telling us you are here to testify about a series of videos that you can't confirm whether they are accurate or not. yes or no. mr. bopp: i'm not answering yes or no. this is the old -- >> if you don't want to answer the question, i've got questions. i've got questions for other witnesses. you are testifying, sir, to videos that you don't know whether they are accurate. mr. bopp: i've seen the videos. >> but you ha

mr. bopp, are you aware in 2011 that anti-abortion groups released videos released video condoning sex trafficking and statutory rape? >> no. >> you're still under oath. and following the release republicans in congress tried to cut off funding for planned parenthood and nearly shut down the government are you aware of that? >> i don't remember that they were connected in that way. >> okay. but you remember that the two things occurred? >> you know, the older i get the harder -- >> i asked you -- >> i'm trying to answer your question. >> yes or no, do you remember or not? >> i don't know what your question is. >> do you remember that following the release of those videos republicans in congress tried to cut off funding for planned parenthood and nearly shut down the government? >> i answered that question already. >> you answered that the two things that congress tried to cut off funding for planned parenthood and government was nearly shut down you don't remember if they were connected? >> in

mr. bopp, welcome. i have substantial familiarity with the subject. my chairman mentioned participation in the fetal research panel by nih on the question of whether or not fetal tissue transplantation research should be funded. the panel recommended the .oratorium be lifted father james and i published a lengthy dissent. they used to use some of the arguments in that dissent. the bush administration continued the moratorium on funding research. based on the information that has come to light through this investigative reporting, it is apparent that planned parenthood fetal tissue procurement practices violate federal and state laws when applicable, ethical and moral principles, and their own guidelines and promises to their patients. this are reasons why happens, it is frankly inevitable. first, planned parenthood believes the unborn has no human rights and can be killed at will at any time during pregnancy with the consent of the mother. history tells us as soon as you strip human readings o

mr. bopp, you suggested there's a gaping hole. it's for reasonable payments for reimbursable costs, whatever that might mean. i want to read you a portion of this transcript, if i might. and this is between one of the folks that set up the undercover video and two individuals in planned parenthood. the actor that was there for the undercover video said, and we agree that $100 would keep you happy, correct? lauren fellser replies -- also the the senior director of planned parenthood, i think so. dr. getter, also there m.d. with planned parenthood said, let me find out what other affiliates in california are getting and if they're getting substantially more then we can discuss it then. the actor says, yes. dr. getter says, i mean, the money is not the important thing, but it has to be big enough that it's worthwhile. the undercover person says, no, no, but it's something to talk about. i mean, it was one of the first things you brought up, right? dr. getter, hmm. the undercover person says, now here's another thought if we could tal