host: mr. boser? aller: the c addresses important points. we need to think about ways we are going to improve education from young people. people talking about the role of money in education. i really want to stress that we need to talk about productivity in schools, how are we going to get the most bang for our buck. we did a study that came out a few months ago that evaluated the nativity of over 7000 school districts. what surprised me, we only see across the u.s., only two states -- texas and florida -- only you valuate the productivity of schools. we need to put more money in our schools and make sure the dollars are wills then. that will take looking closely at what programs are effective. the research is clear on things like pre-k and supporting so that they can have the rich skills to attract students. ultimately, education reform is common sense. we know it works but the question is do we have the political will to do it and to focus on those programs, those policies that are going to be best for kids? host: pennsylvania, on our las

. >> host: mr. boser? >> guest: i think one thing i'd add to that is trying to get a look at what we know about effective schools, and what we know about successful schools, whether they're in right to work states or not, charter school states, which another divisive issue. is it successful schools are focused on bringing people together. they do a great job of having teachers focus on a common vision. we see this in the research. ton where bright has shown that full systems, whether more trust among the teachers, are much more likely to achieve in the long term and we see this in terms of practice. you look at toledo, ohio. they've done a smart job of bringing teachers together in evaluation systems where teachers are giving each other feedback, and that has shown an effect in terms of achievement and motivation for students. when it comes to education we need to do more to bring people together, to bring schools together to bring teachers, parents, and students, focused on a common vision. that's going t

thank you, i'll listen. >> host: mr. boser.f you want to take the comments and questions. >> guest: sure. just on the common core, the thing we have to kind in mind is that it's getting increasingly politicized. so just take a look at bobby jindal, governor of louisiana. when the common core was -- when he first took a look at the common core, when he saw it on paper, he thought it was a good idea, right? he thought that it was what was good for kids, what was good for kids in louisiana. but then the political winds shifted, and now bobby gin has been trying -- bobby jindal has been trying to pull out of the common core, and he's done so because i think he's no longer looking out for the best interests of students of louisiana, he's looking out for himself. we need to keep in mind there's good policy, and i believe that the common core is great policy, it's what's best for kids, but there's shifting political winds, and there are politicians out there who, i think, are looking at what's best for themselves. as to the caller's s