mr. boyd, do you expect there could be a ban on laptops or ipads in the cabin on intercontinental flights? >> absolutely. it could happen. if they think there's threat. and i can't find where that threat is, i can't get my arms around this one. but if they feel there's threat with someone using an ipad or a laptop in the cabin, yeah, they could ban them everywhere. >> what about in the hold? there's been some concern if they're checked with the luggage, it's equally a danger. >> if it's going to be used as an explosive device, whether it's in the cargo bin or in the economy cabin, it's dangerous. i think what they're focusing on is some use of this device that could be negative. and i don't get -- i just don't understand what that might be. >> if it were to happen on intercontinental flights inbound from europe to the united states, first, what's to cause it not to happen on all flights within the united states? and i point out that some airlines, notably united, have gone to in-flight enterta