mr. braunstein is not here. just curious to see what he would look like. but he is -- has artlessly transformed people who supported him in his business into adversaries and he has ignored the conditions of his c.u., which allows him to be in business. and worse yet, he has ignored the needs of his community that he finds himself doing business in. and for us to grant jurisdiction in order to consider lowering the penalties i think would be much more than unreasonable. i do not intend to support granting jurisdiction. >> the issue here is whether there were circumstances or due process issues related to the case whereby jurisdiction may be an appropriate way to deal with it. it's not dealing with the actual case itself, either the fine or the conditions at this point that are apparently not being met. on the one hand the presentation on the reasons for jurisdiction were very minimal and they were not extensive enough to be granted. the question is whether or not we can, through the office of this board, sometimes assist in crafting a solution. perhaps that