let's find out from mayor howard braxton who's joining me on the phone what is happening there. mr. mayor, i spent a lot of time on topsail beach covering lots of hurricanes, the destruction of topsail beach that's happened so many times before. what's the situation now? >> the storm has passed us now. but we're still getting high winds and heavy rain. even though it's passed us, we still have to be very cautious. >> and where are you? where are you staying safe right now? >> i'm at the emergency operations center just outside of surf city actually in surf city. we're off the island. >> okay. >> but we're very close by. >> you and your family have quite the history of topsail beach there. what is the expectation of how topsail may have endured irene? >> may have enjoyed it? >> may have endured it. >> oh, endured it. everybody was ready to leave, i think. we've all been through storms before. but they take heed and believe no matter if it's a 1, 2, 3 or 4, whatever the category is, they treat it as a 3 or 4 or 5. and they're prepared for it. you never take these things likely. >> you