mr. breen, first of all, thank you for your service to your country. we appreciate it. what do you think about pulling money from i think core defense and combat training activities and diverting 2,000 to 4,000 of our national guard men and women to the border? what do you think about the efficacy of that move? >> congressman, that's a dangerous game to start replying. and i think history indicates that all the way back to task force smith in the korean war. the cost to that can be very high when you get yourself into a fight. i agree with great deal of what he had to say in the sense that we do need to invest in these capabilities but i do think there is patrol and other things, but i think there is a great danger when policy makers reach for the military as a band-aid to solve problems in other areas of government. and the military can do so many things. it's been overstretched. sent of defense who knows a few things about being in a fight again is down the hall saying the number one prioriti

mr. breen, is that right? what would the national guard's role consist of and how effective would they be? >> that is correct. it is the right thing to do. it is worth noting this is title 32 situation, not a title 10 situation. so secretary mattis is not in position, as strange as it may sound, to directly issue guidance to the guard. that fall also to the governors. i definitely think it is the wisest course of action. what ends up happening, of course, is that in theory the national guard will do things like man towers and do other tasks so border patrol agents are free to go out. as mr. judd has already stated, border patrol has already got in some situations 75% of its man strength not patrolling already. so it is a little hard to see in a management situation like that how you're not just going to have a lot of guys frankly standing around. >> i don't have much time, so one of the things i want to kind of point out and ask, because it was justified that the deployment of national guard troops based on ca

in court, he admitted cutting up her body but argued she had died from toxic fumes mr breen says.aring about other people, if they could not help them out. if he didn't see it... he might as welljust disappear. the case has grabbed headlines around the world. some have drawn parallels to horror movies. something many here in scandinavia have found upsetting. it isa upsetting. it is a safe area, this is the very unusual case. you have been in touch with kim wall's family during the investigation. how are they doing? they have had a terrible time. missing their daughter and all through the investigation and going to trial, they get to see all the evidence and i cannot imagine what they are going through. kim's friends relatives has set out a foundation in her memory. they hope she will notjust be remembered for the way she died but as a brave reporter who can continue to inspire others. i understand that madson's legal tea m i understand that madson's legal team are planning to appeal this. yes, they do plan to appeal the life sentence that is then handed down to peter madsen and so