mr. brennan reported the theft of seven rvs owned by the brennan family. ice recovered the vehicles three months later, they traced them back to kyle devlin. mr. devlin stole them? the state cops never had a chance to find out. brennan dropped his complaint. he said it was all a misunderstanding. to be settled amongst themselves. well, it's not that simple. the outside world is fair game, but not the family. devlin wouldn't want anyone in the family to know that he stole from a fellow traveler. i see. restitution would have to be done quietly. $200,000 doesn't change hands without the family noticing. he'd have to disguise it. yeah, it's, it's tradition for the family of the bride to pay a dowry to the family of the groom. devlin arranged this marriage. he used his granddaughter to cover up his crime. if they were confronted with what devlin did... eames: why would they believe us? we're outsiders. but they'd believe ann. you said there's no evidence she knew. well, maybe professor bryce misplaced some of his notes. devlin: i want to say thank you to colin

mr. brennan, thank you very much. mr. davis, thanks for your time this morning as well. >> thank you. >> let's go to savannah. >> all right, matt, we'll take a turn now to politics. a candid new interview with anthony weiner. the former congressman is speaking out about his campaign, his scandal and his wife. stephanie gosk has details on that. good morning. >> good morning. this is a long online interview. nearly 40 minutes. buzz feed scheduled it before recent revelations about weiner sent his poll numbers tumbling. but he showed up anyway. anthony weiner isn't backing down repeating his impassioned plea to new york city voters. >> if you want to have someone who fights for you, someone who believes in the things that you believe in. someone that won't back down and shows the toughness and the independence, the job is mayor. >> he did spend time talking about issues but the conversation alway cycled back to the scandal that forced weiner to re-sign fm congress. sometimes with a bit of stark, the kind that has made the w

mr. brennan who left the white house and went over to the cia and is conducting, we found out this week, nondisclosure agreements and also polygraphing members of this vast number of cia agents who are on the ground, many of whom may have been casualties but we were not told. this is the american people have figured out the government lying to them, and to have people in both parties, what i call the pro government secrecy alliance, including some members of contributors of this network, getting up and trying to say this taking all the data from american citizens had something to do with this -- >> neil: if you're saying -- by the way, when you're saying we're getting the same sort of charter we did before 9/11, before the nsa was doing this stuff, i assume either doing or using the same means we got chatter then, which is not the way we get chatter now, or you're acknowledging that whatever archaic system we used prior to 9/11 are the same system we're using now because the same strategy did not work an uncovering the boston bombings. >> ed did nothing at and all we have the excuse game

mr. snowden, it is hard to believe we would be having this debate at all. joining me now is liza goieden at the brennan center for justice. liza, thank you for being here tonight. >> my pleasure. thank you, ezra. >> let's begin with the president's policy announcement here. are the four steps, in your view, meaningful in terms of what they mean either for what the nsa is able to do or what we know about what they are doing? >> the devil is very much in the details on these four steps. the northea most significant step he announced that we know much about is the creation of an adversary process within the secret fisa court, the court that approves these surveillance programs and does so with only one party. that's the government appearing before it. and obama said he was willing to consider a system where there would be someone else there to leapt the other side, presumably the public interest. that could conceivably be an important step. the devil is in the details in terms of how that person is appointed. what information that person has access to. what cases that person could actual participate in. w