mr. buckley is joining us now. good morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with the iowa debacle, what can you assure democrats about tuesday's vote? >> well, the most important, significant difference is that while the iowa caucus is a party-run experience, the new hampshire primary is an actual election. people will be going to the polling locations that they do when they vote for school board and their local town elected officials and governor and any other elections they've had. it's been conducted by the same elected local official that's have been conducting elections for decades. it is a state-run operation. we're on top of any election to make sure there's 100% completely smooth reporting system. making sure everyone who wishes to vote can vote. and we think we're going to have a successful first nation primary. >> we know folks in new hampshire prefer a primary over a caucus but do you suspect this is or should be the end of caucuses? >> i think there was a huge movement nationally after 2016 with very f

mr. buckley, i have been thinking about the fact that the 2000 bush, gore election and the 2016 electionand hillary clinton, both went for the republican candidate in lieu of the idea that there really were more majority democrat voters. so that thinking, that one person gets one vote has really been on my mind lately. and i discovered that california has over 40 million people now and we have two senators that represent us. dan, likewise the state of vermont, and many others whose populations are less than a million, they also have two senators. so i felt like the power of my vote is related to mission by virtue of the fact that i live in a very populous state. and then, to take that thought one step further and i hope my sourcing was right on this, but, i read recently that the impeachment vote was in favor of conviction by i think it was 47 senators but they represented 169 million people. those who acquitted, who voted to acquit trump represented 151 million people. so it's roughly 18 million people fewer. so, i feel like the power of my boats, my one vote per person is really dimini

mr. buckley, i am concerned the lack of understanding in the country currently about the electoral college, why it was -- it originated raid and -- originated and the discussions about eliminating at. -- could fuel more secession activity and i would like your thought on that. thank you. the electoral college because anything else would have been a dealbreaker for many of the states, for the smaller states. we had a compromise that had to compromise a lot of things and some of the things you might not of light, slave ring -- slavery being an example. that was the price of getting a country together. as for the electoral college, you can make a lot of arguments for and against it. obviously it runs up against the basic norm underlying our constitution and that is democracy. so the ic of one man, one vote across the country is inconsistent with the electoral college. the framers knew that, they had to argue against people like maddison who didn't want anything like that. the framers, most of them thought we don't want small states to be swallowed up by the big ones. the big ones back then we

mr. buckley, is let them vote in mississippi. >> i think actually what is not that not enough negroes are voting but that too many white people are voting. ( laughter ) >> the audience laughs, but buckley is deadly serious about he's still supporting disenfranchisement of black people, but he's saying, "i'll also disenfranchise some white people and leave only a white elite to control the situation in the south." and he's using things like this idea of colorblind kind of hollow out the way to accomplishments of the civil rights movement. >> reporter: at the end of the debate, a te was taken to termine the "winner." ldwin received 544 votes buckley just 164. but buley was far from discouraged. >> he says, "i am so proud of my performance th nightecause i did not give them one ( bleep ) inch." that really captures his creed sin-- in-- you know, a vert slogan, right? >> reporter: in buccola's fina analysis, the divide between poldwin and buckley is reflective of thtical divide facing americans even today. >> to a patriot for buckley meant standing up for the stitutions and ideas that you tak

mr. buckley, i am concerned the lack of understanding in the country currently about the electoral collegey it was -- it originated raid and -- originated and the discussions about eliminating at. -- could fuel more secession activity and i would like your thought on that. thank you. the electoral college because anything else would have been a dealbreaker for many of the states, for the smaller states. we had a compromise that had to compromise a lot of things and some of the things you might not of light, slave ring -- slavery being an example. that was the price of getting a country together. as for the electoral college, you can make a lot of arguments for and against it. obviously it runs up against the basic norm underlying our constitution and that is democracy. so the ic of one man, one vote across the country is inconsistent with the electoral college. the framers knew that, they had to argue against people like maddison who didn't want anything like that. the framers, most of them thought we don't want small states to be swallowed up by the big ones. the big ones back then were v

primary, i love the fact that it they open primary and that have paper ballots so that makes buckley sense what mr. said about the way they handle their elections. umber two, stparblgs the candidates go, i personally like gabbert. i know she is a long shot but she is very honest and has a lot integrity. here demeanor is great and i think she will do well with independence. she is a veteran of 17 years and and in congress sun years -- seven years and if you are nterested in finding out more watch the energy with john video you youtube will get a very pleasant surprise. comment is, if mayor bloomberg would take $100 clean up the water he would probably be the next states.nt of the united so, that is it? thank you for taking my call. let phame ask this question. bloomberg is skipping new hampshire. does that say about the viability of new hampshire as nation e first in the primary if one of major candidates is not even bothering to come there? guest: well, first let me say omething about tulsi since i said something about pete for many who might not know pete miles per hour and tom perez and others r