mr. bueller from heritage made several specific comments in epa each of the three presentations. i would request his comments be incorporated. i know they are under public comment. and objective 9, this is just a nuance, but in the last sentence of 9.1, it talks about important historic structures that will is survive future disasters. this is a delicate approach to restoring and seismically improving buildings so that they is survive, however, because they are historic structures they are allowed a lot of latitude to provide the safety of the occupants, the building would sustain more damage that any upgrade at this time would cause more daniel -- damage that what would be able to be repaired. somehow we need to make sure that this doesn't ge miss construed that we are asking the building to get retro fitted to a higher stad standard that in the event it doesn't is survive. that in that thought ensure that historic resources are protected and restored in the aftermath of a disaster. our approach is to allow some daniel so we don't to have disturb historic materials in a retrofit

mr. sugaya. >> good afternoon commissioners, mike bueller with heritage. i would like to briefly note we strongly support staff's recommendation regarding policies in objective seven and in terms of commissioner matsuda's comments, there are numerous case studies in the report that relate to this section of the elements that we think are particularly effective and could perhaps be included in implementation measures such as youth led walking tours and heritage and cultural trails. i did no. see cultural heritage and tour programs, we have cultural and tourism provided the community is interested. it is perhaps the largest industry in san francisco and certainly our neighborhood could benefit and cultural her the animal -- heritage benefits reach the efforts to promote cultural tourism in san francisco. >> thank you. any other members wish to speak on this item? we'll close this for now and go to item 8. >> shelley, that brings us to objective eight which is to promote historic preservation as a key strategy and add hear egg adhering to the principals of th

mr. bueller, you know it's a great explanation about tangible versus intangible but no. i don't know that the public would understand that. >> commissioner johnck? >> what is said earlier about the preservation. i have been thinking a lot about daniel berm an and nobling citizenry that is patronizing for the public. but i'm thinking about it where we had these words foster public awareness and appreciation. i'm thinking more about foster prides or instill pride. the city of france has this magnificent architecture. this commission has been set up to with experts and all of us are talented in many different areas but we spend so much time in the planning department and trying to take care of it and the citizens of the city we are really working towards the sense of how proud we are in what we have and how we are taking care of it. this is stewardship and maintenance. i guess pride is something that is considered integrating something whether it's here or earlier. i don't know whether any of you might agree with that or whether we ever enough words to describe that. anyway