mr. buiier. i'm going to insist on the point of order and use the logic that was used on mr.urgess' liability. in the long-term health care section, there's clearly, an item on page three, line 10 established mechanisms for collecting and stribting payments. that is clearly jurisdictionally totally within the ways and means committee. if dr. burgess' liability language was not germane because of jurisdictional total within the judiciary committee, this section is not germane because it was totally within the jurisdiction of the ways and means committee. what is good for the goose and gander. and i would -- i would -- i would yield to mr. buiier, because they concerns. >> would the gentleman yield to me? >> sure. i'll yield to you. >> i could recognize on the point of order. >> i wanted to say briefly that, that this -- this was written specifically to avoid the problem that -- that you're raising by saying that the program does not go into effect until and unless the secretary sets up this -- you know voluntary payroll deduction. it is written to specifically avoid the jurisd