mcguiness and mr. bulch go someplace? >> yes. >> describe that. >> i get done with my interview with mr. mcguiness. no, i don't ask him. i said if you want to come with us, that's fine, to document and film the -- me and ryan helping people, and he said yeah, sure. he followed behind us. >> and in that tape with mr. mcguinness, there's talk about you being an emt correct? >> yes. >> are you an emt? >> no. >> you have -- >> you go south on sheriton road? >> correct. >> you stay south? >> i believe we stay to the right going south on the road. >> eventually you close that road? -- closs that road? >> yes. >> were the bear cats there yet? >> yes, they were. >> okay. and they set up a line to stop people that you were aware of? >> not that i was aware of. i just know they were parked right there. people were throwing rocks at them. >> did anybody tell you not to cross that line and you wouldn't be able to go back? >> not until later in the evening. >> you crossed that line, and where do you go? >> we continue straight in the s