mr. burgess.hink you heard this morning the public option is a dead duck or what did senator conrad say, there's no point chasing this rabbit any longer. they don't have the votes for it in the senate. it is odd the president hasn't ever put out his vision of what he thinks health care reform ought to look like, relying on three democratic chairman. republicans have been frozen out of this deal a long time. don't blame us for being obstructionist. it's democrat versus democrat that slowed this down and given the american people a chance to weigh in and saying we don't like what we're seeing. >> the idea of the public option, isn't it being, they're putting this out there -- is it sort of being hyped, this public option notion, thinking that this is only option being offered, a public option and i don't think people don't realize it's not the only option offered. >> it will be an attrition of private insurance because it is difficult to compete with the government with their unlimited funding, plus

burgess and then mr.'s. >> and thank the gentleman for yielding, between these two proposals offered by the ranking member, this proposal mr. chairman is a shame we did not serve from this .4 months ago. there is a broad consensus and would have delivered a product that would have solved a problem for a million which is the real problem they're asking us to solve, they don't want us to turn over 17 percent of the nation's economy to some program they don't trust the they do want us to fix this problem and as you can see from this discussion there are good ideas on both sides to have to get this down. i yield back mr. vartan met mr. stern's. >> quickly, council appears to me that the offensive did this start six months after enactment but there is a clause on page three special rule for collective bargaining agreements and the question i have reviewed is this of this, the more these collective bargaining agreements and special exemption. the bill starts by six months after enactment of a site into this bil

mr. burgess, for questions? >> i apologize for being on during part of your testimony earlier. can anyone tell me, bottled water has a certain standard, what about our cola drinks? are those bottles held to the same standards as bottled water? >> cola drinks are considered food, and there are food manufacturing practices they are held to. they are not held to the bottled water, which are in addition to the general manufacturing good manufacturing practices. >> there is no way the products could lead to of the plastic into a liquid days, whether it be water or cola drinks? >> i think the point that is there is from a food safety perspective, water has a whole additional set of regulations compared to cola. it really depends on, compared to what? when you compare bottled water to coal, and has a whole different set of regulations. if you compare it to municipal water, there are certain standards that apply to municipal water. from a food safety perspective, there is a whole additional set of regulations. >> what about the water that is manufactured and sold with caffeine added to

mr. burgess. i want to thank the gentleman. i hope you don't withdraw it. competition occurs if we're going to wipe out specialty hospitals, hospitals around the country will enjoy monopoly status. it will begin a stagnation as to quality. that's not good. i yield. there is a partially physician-owned hospital being dealt in an underserved area -- about 60,000, 70,000 people who live in the area. it is 80% filth. they will not be eligible to take medicare or medicaid because they did not receive their medicare authorization as of the date. i support and want this amendment to pass. yield back. >> i encourage the gentleman to not withdraw his amendment. this is an extremely important topic. the retroactive nature of the language in the base bill is unnecessarily punitive. i can not imagine how in america we can restrict unlawful business just based from the standpoint of someone's professional degree. there's nothing like the pride of owner ship. when you own something you want it to be the best. i thank you, gentleman. >> my time is expired. >> thank you, m