mr. burton. >> thank you mr. chairman. mr. kennedy, right after the september 11 attack, you were up here on capitol hill giving a briefing to aids and, in fact, you said this appears to be a terrorist attack, do you stand by that? >> what i said mr. chairman was that -- former chairman-- >> sir, i have just presented the facts as they've come across. i am not making any judgments on my own. >> let me ask you a couple of other questions. there were 16 troops that were there at that compound. and they requested them to be kept there. and they sent a suggestion to you that they be kept there and then you responded saying that if that was presented to you, you would not accept that. was that your sole decision? >> sir, they were not in benghazi, they were in tripoli. >> i understand. >> and when the cable came in where mr. nordstrom laid out all of his staffing requirements and needs, i asked our desk officer to go back and sit down with him or through e-mails and telephone conversations to work out all the details and line up ex

mr. burton, i guess, i am confused about what nile cafe claims to be. is it a cafe? i mean you can't be a cafe and a tobacco shop, as i understand it. so what is it? >> well, in terms of what it does, it does -- >> commissioner lazarus: it operates under a license as something. >> right. it operates under a license as a restaurant, is the main license. but it also has a tobacco license to sell the product. >> commissioner lazarus: but it's not a tobacco shop, is that -- >> under the -- the department is arguing that you cannot be a tobacco shop and serve food at the same time. that's the language of the statute. >> commissioner lazarus: well, if they're arguing it because it's in the statute, then -- >> i'm just telling you -- i'm not saying one way or the other. i'm just telling you their position. >> commissioner lazarus: and is it legitimate to argue that while there may be some ambiguity allowing someone to continue while it gets resolved you can make a similar argument that it cease happening while it is being resolved? >> i'm sorry. >> commissioner lazarus: con

mr. burton, that they can compete in the free marketplace like cartoon channel and others because we're in an era where we have to bring down the spending. of two do it. and you say? >> i say you're missing the point, bill. if you're going to focus on the $414 million, you are missing the point. america has always claimed to be the nation that wants to provide a quality education to all of its citizens. and i'm not saying that pbs is perfect and you're quite right, the sesame workshop can take care of itself and we don't need to worry about big bird. he's gonna be fine. he's gonna be okay. but the underlying issue, bill, is how do we do the job of educating america's children and are we going to make them political footballs in this campaign? >> bill: you believe that if we pull -- if the deposit pulls the 450 million a year from pbs that education over the television airways directed at children is going to crumble and that will hurt kids? >> it's going to suffer. it's going to suffer. and there are already plenty of children falling through the crack, bill! come on, let's get real. we're

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mr. burton asked you at your sole discretion to deny the extra manpower, yes or no? yours will discretion, was that your sole discretion to deny the request to mr. notes from customer >> -- mr. nordstrom? >> >> it was approved by who? >> the director of diplomatic security and the assistant secretary. >> names, please. >> [indiscernible] >> i recognize there are certain dates law-enforcement prepares for because we believe they are significant to certain groups. one of which is september 11. it is significant to which group? which group would make that significant? >> i'm not sure i follow your -- >> which terrorist group finds september 11 significant? >> i'm sure all terrorist groups. >> but mostly al qaeda, would you not agree? yes or no? if you don't agree, say you don't agree. >> yes, i'm sure. >> we have requests, over 230 clear incidents, we have bombings that have entered our compound, yet multiple requests, over 230 clear incident, violence erupting everywhere around, and you in your agency deny security personnel that they have requested and been, on septemb

mr. burton to go over by two minutes, and you are giving mr. cummings 15 seconds. you know what i mean? a little bit -- i'm sure you -- >> i understand. we have gone over both on witnesses and that and i will -- i'm going to pull it back into five minutes very solidly. >> okay, but just be fair. >> before we get down to your part, i promise. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> without objection, the ranking member is given equal time to ask a question. i just want to go back to you, ambassador. i think mr. norton and the question asked a very critical question. the chairman tald about the five days. can you give us -- can you try to explain that to us that, you know, during that period of five days or whatever it was not being able to -- not having the information contrary to what mr. rice may have said, i understand it was based on intelligence, but can you explain how that could happen to the public? in other words, while you all are still gathering information, was the state department in the process of trying to get it right? i mean, what was going on there, do you know? >> mr. cumm

mr. burton asked you at your sole discretion to deny the extra manpower, yes or no? ours will discretion, was that your sole discretion to deny the request to mr. notes from customer >> -- mr. nordstrom? >> >> it was approved by who? >> the director of diplomatic security and the assistant secretary. >> names, please. >> [indiscernible] >> i recognize there are certain dates law-enforcement prepares for because we believe they are significant to certain groups. one of which is september 11. it is significant to which group? which group would make that significant? >> i'm not sure i follow your -- >> which terrorist group finds september 11 significant? >> i'm sure all terrorist groups. >> but mostly al qaeda, would you not agree? yes or no? if you don't agree, say you don't agree. >> yes, i'm sure. >> we have requests, over 230 clear incidents, we have bombings that have entered our compound, yet multiple requests, over 230 clear incident, violence erupting everywhere around, and you in your agency deny security personnel that they have requested and been, on septembe

mr. vice president. >> i can respond but it's going to take more than 30 seconds. >> well, that's all you've got. >> well, the reason they keep mentioning hall burton is they try to throw up a smokescreen. they know the charges are false. they know if you go, for example, to factcheck.com, an independent website sponsored by the university of pennsylvania, you can get the specific details with respect to halliburton. it's an effort they've made repeatedly to confuse the voters and there's no substance to the charges. >> 30 seconds. >> the facts are the vice president's company that he was c.e.o. of that did business with sworn enemies of the united states made millions of dollars -- paid millions of dollars in fines for providing false financial information. it's under investigation for bribing foreign officials. the same company that got a $7.5 billion no-bid contract, the rule is that part of their money is supposed to be withheld when they're under investigation, as they are now, for having overcharged the american taxpayer, but they're getting every dime of their money. i'm happy to let voters make their own decision about it. >> senator edwards, as we wrap u

mr. vice president. >> i can respond but it's going to take more than 30 seconds. >> well, that's all you've got. >> well, the reason they keep mentioning hall burton is they try to throw up a smokescreen. they know the charges are false. they know if you go, for example, to factcheck.com, an independent website sponsored by the university of pennsylvania, you can get the specific details with respect to halliburton. it's an effort they've made repeatedly to confuse the voters and there's no substance to the charges. >> 30 seconds. >> the facts are the vice president's company that he was c.e.o. of that did business with sworn enemies of the united states made millions of dollars -- paid millions of dollars in fines for providing false financial information. it's under investigation for bribing foreign officials. the same company that got a $7.5 billion no-bid contract, the rule is that part of their money is supposed to be withheld when they're under investigation, as they are now, for having overcharged the american taxpayer, but they're getting every dime of their money. i'm happy to let voters make their own decision about it. >> senator edwards, as we wrap u