mr. buscovich mentioned he had tried at dbi to get the residential use in the building. i'm not sure when that happened, i believe we met in 2008, i saw the permit that was withdrawn at that time. it didn't look like it had been reviewed by plan check, it looked like it had just been brought in and maybe it was going around for a while but it was certainly withdrawn for some reason. i don't have any evidence of any preapplication meetings during that time. what i do know is after speaking to mr. ma today is that there had been meetings at dbi in mid-december, 2013, regarding the possibility of creating live-work occupancy in this building. the department had asked the building reps, owners, whoever was at the meeting, to apply for a formal pre-application meeting with dbi that process involves, you can involve people from other departments, you can have fire department, mechanical, structural building, it's a good process. that process has not been followed up on. that's what i'm being told, that is still outstanding. there is a path to legalization for live-works in thi