mr. butler? >> is not often that i am here with the permit. i am here usually arguing against the permit. mr. atkinson is usually on the other side. i think in this case, i have an idea that would solve the problem. even if you will grant and uphold our permit to put either and open metal rail or a glass rail that is clear, which are permit allows us to do, if you will uphold that permit, i will put translucent glass in the elevations of the debt that face the appellants property so that all the west side glass would be glazed with translucent glass. you cannot see through it, but light goes through it. if no one appeals the use of that translucent glass, we are done. if someone appeals it, we will come back to you and you can ask me to notice the translucent glass. but if we walk out of here tonight without the ability to move forward on the web -- on a permit that has been a year in the making, through no fault of our own, i think we already severe disadvantage. after we have gone through a process that was carefully researched, that was care

mr. butler will take it from there, and i will rounded out. -- round it out. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is when kaplan, and it is a pleasure to be here today. -- gwen kaplan. note i am a two-term past president of this commission, and i was present when the small business commission went to being a full commission in 1998, so i am proud to see the good work that you have continued to do for smoak -- so many small businesses. my business itself is a direct marketing company on 16th street, ace mailing, walking distance from here, and i am pleased to be joined on the team from the buttner enterprise group, who is with us today, and randy, from an industrial company, who is not with us, but he is a native-american-owned business, and another who is very active in the asian american business community. .that person is on our team, as well as rick from a disabled veteran enterprise, an engineering company, so together, we really do form the rainbow correlation bringing our best to

mr. butler, do you understand? commissioner garcia: do we need to sayu81s minimum height? president peterson: is that what the current plans reflect? the only change to the plans would be the glass on the west side, the first floor deck? and i would based on the finding that the variance is not required? commissioner fung: the interpretation. president peterson: the design administrators interpretation. when you are ready to call that. >> to clarify, i believe the motion is from the president to uphold the permit on condition that the western wall of the first floor deck be made of translucent glass? president peterson: of the lightest grade. >> the lightest grade of translucent glass. commissioner fung: the lightest density. commissioner garcia: before you take the vote, if i may, and this is in no way prejudicial, there was a poem referred to called "the bridge builder." it is a pretty good read. i would recommend it to anybody who is interested in what we do here. >> i agree. >> ok. again, the motion is from president peterson to uphold the permit, on condition that the

mr. butler. >> i will leave the clock. >> thank you. >> we are here, we are ready to go. we don't see why this needs to be strung out any longer. we noticed the appellant, the intentions with respect to the deck. the planning department noticed in 2010 for 10 days consistent with the interpretation of the planning code. this process -- this has to do with the plans which we did not get until today. >> this is the tail feathers of a larger project. this goes through the process and mr. atkinson has reached out and plucked one for other and from that one featherhead he would like to begin the process on the whole project because the client did not have 30 days. >> would you address why we did not get plans until today? >> i did not know the plans were required by the board, i was here for other projects. i was unaware that plans were required. i did not get them to you because i was not here physically to do that. >> i suggest the continuance. >> with no objection, we will go ahead. >> i don't see any continuance but it is up to the majority. >> we feel prejudiced about the