mr. calden and thank you, mr. calden for your advocacy and direct points. so i have two questions for you in response to what you said. >> yes, sir. >> commissioner: so as i understand the letter, the people that you are representing, want an exemption from the gift rule as expressed by the commission because of the reasons that you stated, you want to be exempt from them. >> let's parse that out because there's gifts to city departments and then there's the concept of an individual person receiving a gift and they're two separate issues. so i'm going to address them both, if you will. the first is in regards to city departments which the report addresses in section a.3. the only exception is if a gift is accepteded under the terms of the statutory gift fund. that's contradicted by article five of the charter because article five of the charter gives the governing board the ability to accept gifts of any amount without action of the board of supervisors. >> commissioner: you're saying you're an entity that that does not apply to. >> i'm saying -- yes. i'm o