mr. canady, what do you think? >> our association took a strong stance on that from the beginning, we would not favor the wholesale arming of teachers. we realize there are unique situations. >> mr. pompei? >> absolutely disdegree with that. >> mr. bontrager? >> i'm a security expert, i'm not an expert on gun control, and what we focus on is how to. if schools decide that that's where they want to go, how do we make it as safe as possible. >> i understand. mr. osher? >> one of my expertise is implicit bias from social psychology. it's a very dangerous, risky proposition. >> mr. ellis? >> i would agree with that. i think it's a very risky proposition, and i would not be in favor of it. >> mr. pompei, the national association of school counselors has a recommended ratio of 250 students to one counselor. what's your opinion of that ratio? do you think it's accurate? good? >> i mean, to be honest, i would love it to be even lower than that because the kind of work i know i can do. but i can tell you speaking from experi