jonathan capehart, i'm going to call you mr. martin and mr. capehart to keep things straight. mr.artin, sir, i mean mr. capehart, doesn't that sound like he might be willing to break with the crazies? i mean the 30 or 40 bench out there that wants to say no just because they hate obama. >> well, i mean, i hope you're right. i hope your sense of optimism turns out to be right. but as we've seen time and time again, that sort of vocal minority within speaker boehner's majority, never seems to be satisfied. it seems every time he tries to do something that is the right thing to do for the country, they slap him back. and what's unfortunate is that he buckles to them. so i'll be -- i will be curious to see -- >> have you figured out why? have you figured out why? if he's got people on his side, why does he buckle to 30? >> i don't understand it. i really don't. i mean our colleague here dana milbank has taken to calling him spokesman because he's following his caucus instead of leading them. and i don't mean -- actually, i do mean to compare speaker boehner to speaker pelosi, but if t

jonathan capehart, i'm going to call you mr. martin and mr. capehart to keep things straight. mr. pehart, doesn't it seem he could break with the crazies. i mean the 30 or 40 bench out there that wants to say no just because they hate obama. >> well, i mean, i hope you're right. i hope your sense of optimism turns out to be right. but as we've seen time and time again, that sort of vocal minority within speaker boehner's majority, never seems to be satisfied. it seems every time he tries to do something that is the right thing to do for the country, they slap him back. and what's unfortunate is that he buckles to them. so i'll be -- i will be curious to see -- >> have you figured out why? have you figured out why? if he's got people on his side, why does he buckle to 30? >> i don't understand it. i really don't. i mean our colleague here dana milbank has taken to calling him spokesman because he's following his caucus instead of leading them. and i don't mean -- actually, i do mean to compare speaker boehner to speaker pelosi, but if the shoes were flipped and this was speaker pelo

mr. capehart, didn't it sound they might be willing to break with the crazies, i don't mean republicans are crazy, i mean the 30 or 40 that wants to say no because of obama. >> i hope you're right. i hope your sense of optimism turns out to be right. a as we've seen time and again, they never seem to be satisfied. every time he tries to do something that's the right thing to do for the country, they slap him back. what's unfortunate, is that he buckles to them. i'll be curious to see -- >> have you figured out why? if he -- >> why he buckles? >> why does he buckle to 30? >> i don't understand it. i really don't. i mean, he's -- our colleague here dana milbank has taken to calling him spokesman because he's following his caucus instead of leading them. i don't mean -- actually i do mean to compare speaker boehner to speaker pelosi. if the shoes were flipped and this was speaker pelosi's house, there's no way she would have a vocal minority and her majority telling her what to do. >> jonathan martin, go ahead. >> i was going to -- i don't think i'm being -- i'm not trying to suggest that the

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capehart. see you next week probably. >>> coming up, a lot of them fear the antigovernment extremists or zealots are tearing the party around and they might be right. >>> also, mrted cruz told the values voters summit today he's not giving up. and all over washington democrats are enjoying the fact. and that crushing nbc news/wall street journal poll with republican level at the lowest rate in history, how republicans will try to get back on their feet and how democrats plan to keep their foot on the republican throat. >>> let me finish tonight with the fond memory of better times, and they were. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ sneezes, coughs ] i've got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more sinus symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. oh what a relief it is. >>> welcome back to "hardball." he apparently has exceeded in dividing the republican party. republican congressman peter king says cruz's tactics have had the opposite of their intended effect. >> no one has done more to strengthen ob

capehart, political writer for "the washington post." john, virginia is in a bit of a political position to field the philosophies. it was hammered by the shutdown and also felt the sting of mrnelli's koeshl agenda against gay rights, climate change, women i could go on. what do you think it will cost the gop come 2016? >> if terry mccullough looks like he's going to do -- >> around ten points ahead? >> right, and becomes governor, it certainly puts the state in play as a place where democrats can add it and keep it in the win column. i mean, what the republicans did with the shutdown, i think, was horrible for their electoral chances. they needed -- >> settle there is a slimdown, john. >> a slimdown, thank you. but it was a shutdown. a ted cruz-inspired shutdown. and all those people who live in northern virginia, urbanized northern virginia, gives them an incentive to come out and vote, and vote against the republican, which could swamp the more republican-leaning voters that are outside of the beltway further south in the state. >> so not great. >> no. >> cuccinelli today is holding an anti obama care affordable care act event with other attorney state attorneys general.