now to mr. cass. i have a question to you. you seem to not agree with the people from oxford, which is fine. i would like to know why you seem to be on somewhat of a narrow tunnel vision and it is a short tunnel. you are saying i am dealing with these problems, and you're doing a good job talking to people, i have to say that. in the long range in terms of , people, if automation continues, and i do not agree with you that automation takes care -- one person can take it of two jobs because of automation. look at amazon and their supply chain. it does not work that way. in the long run, since you have people and you can produce more with one person and automation than with 100 people someday, but you need the 100 people to buy the products. where are we going? does your organization look at that long-range or do you keep it what you might call politically -- a political horizon of one or two election cycles? host: thank you for the question. guest: i think the wrong range is incredible -- i think the long range is incredibly im

caller: now to mr. cass. i have a question to you. seem to not agree with the people from oxford, which is fine. i would like to know why you aem to be on somewhat of narrow tunnel vision and it is a short tunnel. you are saying i am dealing with these problems and you're doing a good job talking to people, i have to say that. in the long run, in terms of ,eople, if automation continues and i do not agree with you that takes care -- one person can take it of two jobs because of automation. look at amazon and their supply chain. it does not work that way. in the long run, since you have people and you can produce more with one person and automation , you need100 people the 100 people to buy the products. where are we going? does your organization look at that long-range or do you keep it what you might call politically -- a political horizon of one or two election cycles? guest: i think the wrong range is incredible -- i think the long range is incredibly important and you are asking the right question. the better way to understand the