mr. cassidy. >> hello, mrs. secretary, how are you? >> is that a yes or no question? >> believe me, that's a greeting, not a true inquiry. i can imagine how you are. you said something earlier to ms. myrick that i was intrigued by. you suggested under the aca that medicaid costs for states will decrease. now, i know i heard that. the reason i find that curious is "the new york times" just had an article speaking about how medicaid costs have gone from 21 to 23 or 24%. expected to rise further. there is a blog ed watch -- education watch which is, you know, not even part of this fight except they're saying they anticipate continued crowdout of funding for education by the money required for medicaid expenditures. and my own state, even though you speak of the newly eligible have been 90% of the coverage or 100% falling off to 90, louisiana requires the state funds to be required over the aca and we may quibble if it's $7 billion or $5 billion but it's a significant expense. now i say that in context and if i interrupt i'm not trying to be rude, but we have only limited

mr. cassidy, for five minutes. >> hey, miss jackson. you're always well prepared and unflappable. even though we disagree, let me compliment you on your presence. >> waiting for the other shoe to drop. >> no shoe, truly a compliment. >> thank you. >> care grants, i don't understand these well. but i am told care grants that do go to organizations and the press they create is not science and the state does not look at it and you do not look at it but they get headlines and sometimes in our kind of media driven society, that headline has an impact. so, when these community groups get grants from epa, there is nobody at epa responsible for vetting the validity of their claims. first, is that true? >> we certainly don't vet their press releases. we ask them to use science and expect and hope they will. because they are community groups we don't quite hold them to the same standards we might hold a governmental entity or i hope, ourselves. >> i will tell you that's a fair statement. on the other hand does anybody look at the responsibility of these groups in general? are they periodica

mr. cassidy, for five minutes. >> hello, ms. jackson. you are always well prepared. even though we often disagree that the government on how -- >> i'm worried about the other shoe that is about to drop. >> there is no other shoe. it is truly a complement. >> thank you, sir. >> the care grants, i don't understand this well but i am told these care grants that go to community organizations, the press release they generate is not peer-reviewed science. the states deq does not look at it. you do not look at it but i can say they get headlines. sometimes in our kind of media driven society that headline has an impact. so one, is that true that when these community groups get grants and epa there's nobody at epa responsible for vetting the validity of their claims? first, is that true? >> well, we certainly don't vet their press releases. we ask them to sound science and respect and hope there will. because they are committed groups would uphold him quite to the same standard we might a government and to i hope ourselves. >> that's a fair statement but on the other hand, d

mr. cassidy. it should be mandatory, but our -- in the training on diminished capacity. should be mandatory, but we do not have the tools to do it. we will have to start working together to create them. >> one of the scams you mentioned was the lottery scam. jonathan rusch -- jeffrey steger has done work on that. what is a lottery scam? how did the scammers use the vulnerabilities to steal money? >> short. -- sure. as a prosecutor, we are precipitating in a number of investigations -- partisan bidding in a number of lottery scams and that are playing on elderly people. essentially, the scammers will call them in the u.s., including many elderly people, and inform people that they have won cash prizes in either a maciel -- in either a car or money. we're talking about millions of dollars that these people are told they won. they indicate that the winnings will only be delivered wednesday individuals pay -- once the individuals pay fees, taxes, or insurance. victims and that sending the money for a wire transfer through entities -- end up sending the money through the wire