mr. cavanaugh first.hat is it about the nra's current position that seems to the allow them or force them to say nothing this these days since the tragedy where the young 9-year-old girl was shooting an automatic weapon. >> chris, i would say that lobby groups like the nra don't feel they have to say anything. today tuck in, get advice from the public affairs specialist to just stay out of the fray. you know they are very adept at maneuvering the trenches on the hill up there as you are know. they will probably stay out of the fray. if they say anything they may issue condolences or something. they will let it play out for operatorses of ranges around the country. i think they'll let it play out for the operators and ranges around the country. you know, there's associations for them. and they're going to be more the out front speakers on the issue. >> does silence mean consent? >> well -- >> it often does in law. >> well, i think it does as far as they don't want to go any way against guns at all, no matt

mr. cavanaugh describe one solution to out lying approach? do you have a view of whether that helps? hurts? doesn't solve the problem? >> i think cms did intend to fix a problem in observation status and recognize the current observation policy. i think now we see that there's issues and we would hope that there's more consideration of policies going forward. a very short stay, a patient of very clinical needs prior to going forward. we would also strongly advocate for a pilot. >> i would agree with that. one of the statements that was made earlier is there was disparity of observation stays. there was a period of time to determine whether or not the patient needed hospitalization as an inpatient or could be sebt home. by the time they need to be admitted, sometimes those patients turn around in less than two days and we should not be penalized for being efficient in our ability to manage those patients as an inpatient. >> thank you. you made a point that grew my atechx. >> any idea what percentage of the report of decline that might represent? >> we don't have data that would indica

mr. pruitt. we have jim cavanaugh joining us, who has been with us analyzing the law enforcement aspects of this. jim, i've got to say, this is as quick a turn around as i've ever seen in a situation like this. >> i agree. i think the governor has been getting a lot of criticism, but he did the main thing today which was to make the change to people in charge there that will treat the residents with respect and dignity and the captain brings all those things. his demeanor, look at the way he talked in the press conference and the way he talks to people at the scene. he's a nice guy. he's a leader. he's ranks, he's a captain in the highway patrol. so he's going to bring a different inflection. this is all people are asking for. they need the police to protect them. but they want that kind of leadership, calm, and i think he's going to deliver that tonight. >> it's a great example of the value of police officers actually knowing the community that they are policing. >> exactly. you have to draw your police from the community, and you've talked about it, lawrence, and a lot of people on msnbc about

thanks also to jim cavanaugh for joining us and for mr. pruitt of the naacp in st. louis. our live coverage of the situation there in missouri will continue now with chris hayes. >>> good evening. let me start tonight with separation anxiety. for the past two nights we covered the obama/clinton political tap dance. first hillary clinton interviewed in the atlantic in which she criticized obama's foreign policy. next, dissect the plate cal maneuvering, is she positioning herself for a 2016 run and separating herself from the president who is currently struggling in the polls. yesterday, the phone call. clinton calls obama to clear the air. a spokesman makes a statement saying it was to make sure nothing she said was meant to attack him. today a press release, a spokesman with this assess of this call and criticism. >> president indeed appreciating president clinton's call as he does every opportunity it chat with former secretary of state. they have a close relationship and the president appreciates counsel and advice but more importantly appreciates her friendship. that's

thanks also to jim cavanaugh for joining us and for mr. pruitt of the naacp in st. louis.e coverage of the situation there in missouri will continue now with chris hayes. >>> good evening. let me start tonight with separation anxiety.

louis american" newspaper, and jim cavanaugh, msnbc law enforcement analyst, retired atf special agent in charge. lizz brown, first of all, to mr. page there who has been suspended, how surprised were you or shocked or how would you describe your feelings about discovering that this kind of thinking was in one of your local police departments? >> confirmation. i really believe, when i hear those words coming out of his mouth, it's the same energy, it's the same thought brothers, it's the same world view that i believe drove darren wilson to feel comfortable enough that he could shoot a child, leave a child on the ground for four hours, and then know that he was going to be covered by the county police department. that's -- it's confirmation, lawrence. >> and jim cavanaugh, officer page is in the police department that ferguson immediately handed over their investigation to. and that video has been online since april. nobody thought, until friday, there was anything wrong and the officer involved didn't think there was anything wrong with having that video online until friday. since april. >> it's out rage just, lawrence, really