mr. cecil roberts is president of the united mine workers of america. and dr. jeffrey colder is director in the office of mine and safety health research with the national institute for occupational safety and health. before i recognize each of you for your testimony, i'll just remind you of the lights. i know all of you have been here. we've got a green light, yellow light and red light. green light will indicate that you have five minutes. the yellow light, you have one minute. and the red light, we would ask you to wrap-up your testimony. your entire written testimony will be included in the record. so you can summarize, if you would like. with that, we'll start with mr. shapiro. you're recognized, sir. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i will summarize my written statement that has already been provided. >> microphone. >> is it on now? okay. thank you, mr. chairman. thank you for inviting me to testify this morning. with respect to the oig report on allegations of retaliation and intimidation related to the ubb accident investigation. in march of 2011, we receive

mr. cecil roberts who was the president of the united mine workers of america. you're basically saying the coal industry could suffer the same fate as bin laden by which i i guess you mean the epa's going to put the coal industry out of business. is that fair? >> i think that's exactly what i've been saying. we've had three rules, two of which have been implemented. all of which are very troubling for the coal industry. and where we found ourselves today, i doubt if it's possible to build another coal-fire facility in the united states. >> well, that's what some of the environmental people are saying that there'll never be another new coal-fired plant. isn't the united states the saudi arabia of coal? aren't we a gigantic coal power? >> we have more coal in the united states than any country on earth and absolutely we're the saudi arabia of coal here in the united states and instead of trying to do away with this energy source, we ought to be tapping into it. >> as i understand it from your radio appearance yesterday, you're very annoyed at the obama administrat