mr. chaffetz: i want to thank mr. o'rourke for his passion on this issue. he's a fine gentleman to work with on these types of issues and others. i'm happy to serve with him on homeland security and in this body. i thank him for his work because it has been some good, bipartisan work on both sides of the aisle and both bodies to get to this point. i also want to thank eleanor holmes norton for her personal commitment to these issues and federal workers in general. this truly is a situation where we've got a win-win situation, we make life better for border patrol agents and their families, give more certainty to them and their families, help them with their mortgages, very difficult work, we also happen to save money for the american taxpayers. i appreciate the creativity and good work to get to this point. with that, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from utah reserves. the gentlelady from the district of columbia. ms. norton: i'm pleased to offer three minutes to my good friend from new york, the ranking member of th

mr. chaffetz. >> thank the chairman. mr.gru ber, you also did some work for the congressional budget office, correct, the cbo? >> i was on a cbo advisory council. >> when did that start? >> i don't exactly remember. it was probably. >> 2007 correcting >> mid towels. >> when did you stop working for the cbo? >> i did not -- i was on the advisory council until i think through 2008. i'm not entirely sure. >> you mean 2011. is that correct? >> no, i did not go to meetings at the advisory council. >> were you on the advisory council till 2011. >> i honestly don't know when they took me off it, but i did not attend the meetings. >> were you on the cbo panel in 2010? >> i've not attended any meetings of the panel in 2010. >> but you were part of that organization. did you have any communications with the cbo? >> yes. áÑ yes. meetings but you did have coáájt(urjj es since obama took office did you go to the white house? >> i don't recall exactly. >> board and 20? >> no. >> i believe it was. how many times you think it was? going to

mr. chaffetz. >> thank you for holding this hearing. mr. secretary thank you for being here. i hope you're able to convey the love and gratitude for the men and women who serve in the customs and border patrol, the i.c.e. agents who put their lives on the line every day for this country, we thank them for their service. my question for you mr. secretary is what do you say to someone who believes the president took action to change the law? >> we did not change the law. we acted within the law. >> can you play the clip. this is from november 25th. this is the president in nevada. talking about this. >> but what you're not paying attention to is the fact that i just took an action to change the law. >> so you say he didn't change the law. but the president says he changed the law. >> he acted within existing law. he acted within our existing legal authority. listen, i've been a lawyer 30 years. somebody plays me an eight-word excerpt from a broader speech i know it to be suspicious. ok, that was very nice. >> it says, i'm going to read it back. now you're absolutely right that

mr. chaffetz. >> thank you for holding this hearing. mr. secretary thank you for being here. i hope you're able to convey the love and gratitude for the men and women who serve in the customs and border patrol, the i.c.e. agents who put their lives on the line every day for this country, we thank them for their service. my question for you mr. secretary is what do you say to someone who believes the president took action to change the law? >> we did not change the law. we acted within the law. >> can you play the clip. this is from november 25th. this is the president in nevada. talking about this. >> but what you're not paying attention to is the fact that i just took an action to change the law. >> so you say he didn't change the law. but the president says he changed the law. >> he acted within existing law. he acted within our existing legal authority. listen, i've been a lawyer 30 years. somebody plays me an eight-word excerpt from a broader speech i know it to be suspicious. okay. that was very nice. >> it says, i'm going to read it back. now you're absolutely right tha

mr. chaffetz. do you feel bad about taking all of this money for obamacare that you called stupid?ney that i received for my economic compensation work was compensation for quality work i did in economics and modeling, so i think it was appropriate. >> you worked 21 meetings at the white house. you met once in the president's office. you talked to him. based on the information you provided, things you heard in this meeting, these meetings and your general understanding do you believe that the administration was truthful and transparent in the things that they said working up to the passage of obamacare, like if you like your health care you can keep it? >> i think the discussion of the affordable care act was fully transparent in the discussion of the many aspects of the law. >> do you feel like -- well, you testified earlier that you knew there was going to be some churn. did you feel like you were complacent in presenting the affordable care act in a distruthful manner or is that something that you'd like to apologize for well? >> the numbers that i presented agency part of my ec