mr. chaffetz: no. i want to give members each an opportunity if they have -- if they'd like to speak on the a.n.s. does any member wish to speak on the a.n.s.? sorry. mr. desantis is now recognized for five minutes. mr. desantis: mr. chairman, when i hear some of these things, i sat and read -- i sat and heard director comby. he did say the f.b.i. did not find evidence that secretary clinton's email system was hacked by foreign agents. the implication that was made by the gentlelady from new york was in fact that did not happen. that's not what comey said. what he said was, we do not have been able to determine if they had done it because they're sophisticated. if you look at somebody like former director -- deputy director of the c.i.a., mike more ell, who is supporting secretary clinton for president, he basically said any good intelligence service would have anything on any classified system but particularly something like secretary clinton's emails. so i think the issue this subpoena is driving at i

mr. chaffetz: is 10 days reasonable? ms. bresch: sure. mr. chaffetz: the concern here is that, and the question really, is why is mylan classifying epipen as a non-innovator drug? ms. bresch:there have been seves throughout time that confirmed that that is. mr. chaffetz: do you believe the generic that you're planning to introduce, and when by the way, do you hope to introduce the generic? ms. bresch: certainly before the end of the year. mr. chaffetz: in the neck 90 days or something. ms. bresch: yes. to chaffetz: a you going work to classify that as a non-innovator drug or an innovator drug? ms. bresch: i'm much or without classification is. we have not submitted that document. we have not submitted yet because we have not launched the product. mr. chaffetz: i need to spend a few minutes going through this. this chart that is right next to you. i also need help with you, and it is going to take a few minutes to appreciate the indulgence of the committee to understand some of the definitions. out, there isnted a revenue line which seems to be

mr. chaffetz: is 10 days reasonable? ms. bresch: sure. mr. chaffetz: the concern here is that, and the question really, is why is mylan classifying epipen as a non-innovator drug? thebresch: when we acquired product, it had been designated as a non-innovator drug and there have been several points throughout time that confirmed that that is. mr. chaffetz: do you believe the generic that you're planning to introduce, and when by the way, do you hope to introduce the generic? ms. bresch: certainly before the end of the year. mr. chaffetz: in the neck 90 days or something. ms. bresch: yes. to chaffetz: a you going work to classify that as a non-innovator drug or an innovator drug? ms. bresch: i'm much or without classification is. we have not submitted that document. we have not submitted yet because we have not launched the product. mr. chaffetz: i need to spend a few minutes going through this. this chart that is right next to you. i also need help with you, and it is going to take a few minutes to appreciate the indulgence of the committee to

mr. chaffetz: no. i want to give members each an opportunity if they have -- if they'd like to speak on the a.n.s. does any member wish to speak on the a.n.s.? sorry. mr. desantis is now recognized for five minutes. mr. desantis: mr. chairman, when i hear some of these sat s, i sat and read -- i and heard director comby. he did say the f.b.i. did not find evidence that secretary clinton's email system was hacked by foreign agents. the implication that was made by the gentlelady from new york was in fact that did not happen. that's not what comey said. what he said was, we do not have been able to determine if they had done it because they're sophisticated. if you look at somebody like former director -- deputy director of the c.i.a., mike more ell, who is supporting secretary clinton for president, he basically said any good intelligence service would have anything on any classified system but particularly something like secretary clinton's emails. so i think the issue this subpoena is driving at is you

mr. chaffetz: this is the one that mr. jordan put up about the need to strip out a [video clip] [video clip]'s, very v.i.p.'s email address. this is a piece i'm referring to a federal record, isn't he? director comey: i don't know which records he's referring to. mr. chaffetz: how is this not a conscious effort to alter federal records? the proximity to the date is just stunning. director comey: what's the question? mr. chaffetz: how is this not a conscious effort to alter a federal record? director comey: depending upon what the record was and what he was trying to do and whether there would be disclosure to the people they were producing it to saying we changed this for privacy purposes. i just don't know sitting here. mr. chaffetz: these are documents under subpoena. these federal records were under subpoena. they were under a preservation order. did he destroy documents? director comey: don't know whether that was true in july of 2014. they were under subpoena. mr. chaffetz: did he ultimately destroy federal records? d

mr. chaffetz: yes. mr. reynolds: we are actively engaged, the regional director who is in san francisco -- mr. chaffetz: wait. let's explore the relationship between yosemite and the region. is there a problem with that chain of command there? mr. reynolds: the regional office that oversees yosemite in san francisco. we have a regional director. mr. chaffetz: what about the deputy? who is that person? mr. reynolds: we have three deputy regional directors. mr. chaffetz: yes. mr. reynolds: someone in seattle. and two are in san francisco. along with the regional director. mr. chaffetz: come on -- come on. you know what i'm getting at. mr. reynolds: one of the deputies is the wife of the superintendent at yosemite. mr. chaffetz: so -- mr. reynolds: and if i may, mr. chairman, we have consciously stovepiped that by having a third party in the midwest region, our eeo manager, help run theinvestigative process. mr. chaffetz: ok, so here's the problem. you have these -- these things didn't just spring up overnight

chaffetz: where did you set them up? mr. ch of her homes. rep. chaffetz: did that include the skiff? mr. cooper: at the time they were set up, those rooms were not used as skiffs. rep. chaffetz: did you ever have to service any of those computers or work on them? mr. cooper: over a period of time, i did work on those. rep. chaffetz: including the one in the skiff? mr. cooper: i don't recall any specific time i worked on it once they were in the stiffs. rep. chaffetz: how many did you set up in her home? mr. cooper: there was a computer in each office in each of her homes. i worked on her homes for a period of 15 years. certainly, when they were originally set up, they were set up for her staff and use in her homes. i would use the computer from time to time to print documents. once they became skiffs, i don't recall using those computers. rep. chaffetz: or servicing those? mr. cooper: no. rep. chaffetz: did you have a security clearance at that time? mr. cooper: no, i did not have security clearance. rep. chaffetz: after you

mr. chaffetz: mr. speaker, i yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from california, the prime sponsor of this bill, mr. valadao. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. valadao: thank you, mr. speaker and thank you, chairman, for allowing this opportunity. i rise today in strong support of h.r. 3779, the social security fraud prevention act. this common sense piece of litigation will hit mitigation rises instances ofite dentity theft -- sorry. i just landed off of my flight trying to catch my breath. i rise in strong support of my bill h.r. 3779, the social security fraud prevention act. this common sense piece of litigation will help mitigate rising instances of identity theft which has become a significant problem across our country. what's worse, these crimes tend to affect the populations that need the protection the most, including the elderly, children and veterans. recovering from your identity being stolen is a burdensome and expensive process. one

mr. chairman. that was to me? chair chaffetz: yes. mr. reynolds: we are actively engaged, the regional director who is in san francisco -- chair chaffetz: wait, wait. let's explore the relationship between yosemite and the region. is there a problem with that chain of command there? mr. reynolds: the regional office that oversees yosemite in san francisco. we have a regional director. chair chaffetz: what about the deputy? who is that person? mr. reynolds: we have three deputy regional directors. and one is in seattle. and two are in san francisco. along with the regional director. chair chaffetz: come on, you know what i'm getting at. mr. reynolds: one of the deputies is the wife of the superintendent at yosemite. and if i may, mr. chairman, we have consciously stovepiped that by having a third party in the midwest region, our eeo manager, help run the investigative process. chair chaffetz: ok, so but here's the problem. you have these -- these things didn't just spring up overnight, right inthis has been a long-standing pattern. you have

mr. pagliano. rep. chaffetz: was it encrypted? mr. cooper: i cannot speak to that. i cannot recall. rep. chaffetz: you were running it -- mr. cooper: mr. pagliano was running it. rep. chaffetz: did it have dual authentication? mr. cooper: i do not recall dual authentication. has 20 oddtz: it people who can do it, intermingled with the clinton foundation, clinton executive services, did they also have access to that? mr. cooper: i cannot say it is intermingled with the clinton foundation. rep. chaffetz: you were being paid by them, right? there were people being paid either clinton foundation. who were accessing the system, right? mr. cooper: individuals who had multiple job responsibilities some people did do work for the clinton foundation, yes. rep. chaffetz: did state department ever contact you or complain or issue any sort of concern? mr. cooper: they did not have any concern. mr. cooper, i understand that in order to make secretary clinton's private and secure the statertment -- department had to lower its own security settings at least temporarily to manage secretary clinton's

mr. reynolds:chair. chaffetz: when? mr. reynolds: 24 hours. chair. chaffetz: thank you. now recognize the dillman from maryland -- the gentleman from maryland, mr. cummings. rep cummings: this whole thing a retaliation, as i was listening artin, i cannot help but think about the question of how do you tackle a culture? it is not easy. in the baltimore city police department, i had some practice investigating. and the reason why i asked for is because we had people in the department, good policeman, who knew things were going bad, and wrong, but they did not feel comfortable talking about it because they were worried that they would be retaliated against. their comrades would do some things that might be harmful to them. and when we got that patterns of practice report, it was 10 times worse, 10 times, probably 20, than i ever imagined with regard to african-american men and the way they were being treated by police. healy, that really kind of struck me, i feel as if my career and possibly my safety, and the safety of other grand canyon employees, may be at some risk. that

chair chaffetz: what's the conversation? mr. reynolds to keep -- to be : candid with you, to keep the investigative process as clean as we can while we're -- chair chaffetz: so you don't trust congress? we'll make it dirty? for public data purposes during an investigation. but i would -- i will pledge to you to continue to work. chair chaffetz: i want you to pledge it to give it to congress. mr. reynolds i understand that. :chair chaffetz: do you need a subpoena? what do you need? who makes this decision? mr. reynolds it will be a : decision that i'll talk over with our solicitors predominantly. chair chaffetz: i would also like to see anybody who has been fired, dismissed, or retired from yellowstone since 2013. is that something you can give to us? mr. reynolds: yes, i can. chair chaffetz: when will you give that to us? mr. reynolds: i will give it to you within 48 hours. chair chaffetz: fair enough. thank you. we'll now recognize the gentleman from virginia, mr. cummings. i want to pick up where the gentleman left off a few mi

mr. chaffetz.y, you know, this colin powell whole message is one where he encouraged hillary to use a personal e-mail. which is exactly what she said. why isn't mr. chaffetz calling up colin powell? which i love colin powell and i don't think he or she, okay, broke any laws. director comey said it wasn't even a close call. but yet they continue and continue. while we have a candidate cozying up to vladimir putin and they shrug it off. it's really -- you know, where am i, is this really the 21st century? >> senator barbara boxer, thank you so much for joining me this morning. >> thank you. >>> all right. i do have -- actually, there's breaking news right now but i'm going to let john berman and kate bolduan do it, their show is next. thank you so much for joining me this morning. >>> this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. the breaking news out of texas. an active shooter situation is under way at a high school there. this is in brewster county, it's abou

chaffetz: mr.o you intend to make an opening statement? >> on advice of counsel i assert my right not to answer and assert my fifth amendment privilege. rep. chaffetz: mr. cooper, do you intend to make an opening statement? >> i have no opening statement. rep. chaffetz: please, if you all can move the microphone a little tighter, closer, it's hard to hear. mr. combetta, we sent a subpoena to you, we read there was immunity agreement. did you produce your immunity agreement this morning as required under the subpoena. >> on advice of counsel, i respectfully decline to answer and assert my fifth amendment privilege. rep. chaffetz: mr. combetta, a couple of questions. senator johnson last year released a portion of an august 19, 2015 communication between two platte river employees. here is how i read it. " wondering how we can sneak an , e-mail in after the fact meaning then, the clinton services corporation -- " when they told us to cut the backups and have them confirm it for our records, starting

mr. chaffetz for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. koskinen in your opening statement you instructed people in writing to preserve their records. could you please provide this committee and oversight and government reform committee a copy of emails? >> copy of emails? i would be delighted. we instructed those. i did not personally send an email. >> you didn't? we'll go back and look at record. if there are any emails asking people to preserve those documents we would like to see those because we don't think we have them. >> would be happy to provide those. do you assistant bid all your previous congressional testimony? >> i knew then what i knew now i would testify -- >> what in your previous congressional testimony needs to be clarified or altered or update? >> i tried to make that clear? >> clearly at time i was in fact all evidence was being pursued pursuant to the orders that went out. since then it has been clear that obviously we, some tapes were erased which was a mistake. i said that at the time. if i were testifying again i w

mr. chaffetz saying it was not an option for him not to show up, saying they're going to go through all possiblerder to go after him. democrats say he had an agreement with the fbi, limited immunity agreement that allowed him to not testify today. there's this legal argument going forward and another sign that this fight over the clinton e-mail server isn't going away any time soon. >> manu raju, up on capitol hill, thanks so much for watching, keep us posted. >> right now, donald trump's running mate is meeting with lawmakers in washington. he's also facing more questions about david dushgs tke, the for head the kkk. does david duke fit into the category of deplorable? when this busy family... ...got a cracked windshield... ...their dad went to the new safelite-dot-com... ...and scheduled a replacement... ...in just a few clicks. with safelite you don't have to miss a thing. y'all did wonderful! thank you. (girls sing) safelite repair, safelite replace. ha-ha-ha! um-hmmm! hey! nikki! what are you doing here? you tell me, stephen. what? i'm snapping. you've been streaming my videos all morning.

mr. chaffetz submitted 15 months ago and make sure you no longer hold office. mr. chairman, i yield back. goode god the chair thanks the gentleman. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from california, ms. chu, for five minutes. ms. chu: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. chair. commissioner koskinen, today, how many investigations have you been involved with regarding the events referenced in this impeachment resolution? could you explain your personal involvement in each of these investigations? commissioner koskinen: when i started, and, again, all of this happened before me, when i started there were six investigations ongoing. the -- the oversight committee, the ways and means committee, the senate finance committee, the senate permanent subcommittee on investigations, the department of justice and the inspector general all had investigations going on. ms. chu: what were the results of these investigations? commissioner koskinen: the results, as i earlier noted, the results were the i.g. noted in its investigation that no one had had done anything purposefully to imp

mr. chaffetz and as i do so i want to thank him for making as chairman of the oversight and reform committee this hearing room available to us while the room is under renovation. >> i appreciate the extra five minutes of questioning so thank you very much. director thank you for your accessibility. you have been very readily available and we do appreciate that. this investigation started because the inspector general found classified information in a nonsecure sitting in the fbi went to law firm and found the information seized one computer and one thumb drive. did you need an immunity agreement to get those? >> i don't think, certainly there was no immunity agreement. >> so did you really take the fbi a full year to figure out that's cheryl mills and heather sanderson also had computers with classified information? >> know. it took us to that point in investigation to insist we try to get them. we are getting them because they had classified information or if there was other information? >> we thought those were the tools as we understood it that it menus to sort the e-mails. the investigat

republican jason chaffetz from on mrs. clinton's handling of e-mail. but a democrat says the release of documents is restricted by the house intelligence committee, not the fbi. >>> the orlando sentinel reports that an arsonist damaged the mosque where the pulse nightclub killer prayed. police say a suspect started the blaze early yesterday and fled on a motorcycle. the orlando gunman was known to mosque. >>> politico said that the that the officer involved in the garner death he's been on desk duty and his pay was steadily increased. garner was unarmed when the officer put him into a choke hold that led to his death. >>> the indianapolis star reports that a fertility doctor is suspected of inseminating patients 50 times with his own sperm. 77-year-old donald kline is accused of lying about it and pleaded not guilty to tests on two children of clients showed a 99.9% chance that he's the father. >> associated press reports on abby waach's admission about substance abuse. the former soccer star said she abused alcohol and prescription drugs for years. wa

mr. chaffetz of utah and the house of representatives find bryan pagliano in contempt of congress. >> i recognize myself for five minutes. a statement to report on the report and the ans. today, the committee will consider a resolution to report bryan pagliano held in contempt of the house of representatives. subpoenas are not optional. mr. pagliano is a crucial fact witness in this committee's investigation of secretary of state's hillary clinton's private e-mail server to conduct government business. a release of the federal records is of deep concern to the committee and we have the jurisdiction over the federal records over national archives, we have jurisdiction in several places. over the course of the investigation, we learned some of the information about mr. pagliano's involvement in the use of the private server. he originally worked for secretary clinton in 2008 as an i.t. specialist. as he was closing out her campaign's computer equipment, he received a call from cooper who testified in front of this committee. mr. cooper requested mr. pagliano build a server for mara schiavocampo cli

mr. chaffetz? >> aye. >> mr. micah? >> aye. >> mr. micah votes aye. mr. turner? >> [ inaudible ]. >> mr. duncan? mr. duncan votes aye. mr. jordan? mr. jordan votes yes. mr. wahlberg? [ inaudible ] mr. amash? mr. amash votes yes. mr. gocar? mr. dejarle. >> yes. >> mr. gowdy? >> mr. gowdy votes yes. mr. farenthold. >> yes. >> mrs. lummis? mr. massey? >> yes. >> mr. massey votes yes. mr. meadows? mr. meadows votes yes. mr. de santis? mr. de santis votes yes. mr. mulvanemulvaney? mr. buck? mr. walker? >> yes. >> mr. walker votes yes. mr. blum? mr. blum votes yes. mr. heis? mr. heis votes yes. mr. russell? mr. carter? mr. grothman? >> yes. >> mr. grothman votes yes. mr. herd? mr. herd votes yes. mr. palmer? mr. palmer votes yes. mr. cummings? >> no. >> mr. cummings votes no. >> ms. maloney. ms. maloney votes no. ms. norton? mr. clay? mr. clay votes no. mr. lynch? >> nope. >> mr. lynch votes no. mr. cooper? mr. conley? >> never, no how, no way, no. >> mr. conley votes no. >> ms. duckworth? >> no. >> ms. duckworth votes no. ms. kelly? ms. kelly votes no. ms. lawrence? >

mr. chaffetz. >> in your opening statement, you said you had instructed people in writing to preserve their records. could you please provide this committee and the oversight government reform and copy of the e-mails? >> copy the e-mails. sure. i think we instructed i did not personally send an e-mail. >> you didn't. we'll go back and look at the record. if there are any e-mails asking people to preserve the documents. we like to see those because we don't think we have them. >> we'd be happy to provide those. >> we stand by all your previous congressional testimony. >> i noted if i knew then what i know now, i would have testified in a different way. >> what in your previous congressional testimony needs to be clarified or altered or updated? >> well, i tried to make that clear. clearly at the time i testified, i was advised that in fact all the evidence was being preserved pursuant to the orders that ran out. since then, it's been clear that obviously -- some tapes were erased. which was a mistake. i said at the time i were testifying again i would say -- >> part of the problem that we ha

mr. mica: i thank the gentlelady. chairman chaffetz. mr. chaffetz: thank you.mica, i want to thank you for your leadership on this, going down and visiting in louisiana, taking time away from your family and your schedule, for one of the worst disasters that we've had. governor, mayors, thank you so much for being here and for the fema representative. we appreciate you being here too. fema, you have to get your act together. this response so far, what i've been able to see, the pictures, it ain't good enough. aline of scrimmagea cummings talks about this -- elijah cummings talks about this a lot in our committees. we spend billions of dollars and everyone comes here and testifies and says, it's good, we're ready, and then when it really rains, my state, we get 16 inches of rain, maybe in an entire year. y'all got 30-plus inches in 36 hours, i'm told. you got tens of thousands of people whose every bit of what they have in their homes is sitting out in their front yard, they can't even touch the toys that they have. and you've got a dozens of this and a dozens o

house oversight chairman jason chaffetz sent his letter to the district attorney for washington, d.c. today calling for a new probe in the conduct of both mrs. clinton and her staffers. chaffetz says that after reviewing documents released on friday by fbi director james comey, he believes there may be evidence of, quote, obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence by secretary clinton and her employees and contractors. when asked about it earlier today, clinton not only said that she's innocent, she also suggested this is simply another gop conspiracy. >> do you have any concerns that e-mails were deleted after they were already supposed to be di them to be deleted? >> no, of course not. i have no concern on either count. none. and neither do the fbi. >> by the way, u.s. attorney, not district attorney. in a moment, we will be joined by judge andrew napolitano who has reviewed some of the evidence and has an interesting take. and senior political analyst brit hume who's here on the fallout. first we go to trace gallagher live at our breaking news desk. >> reporter: hey, megyn. in calling for the obstruction of justice investigation,

house oversight chairman jason chaffetz sent his letter to the district attorney for washington, d.c. today calling for a new probe in the conduct of both mrss that after reviewing documents released on friday by fbi director james comey, he believes there may be evidence of, quote, obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence by secretary clinton and her employees and contractors. when asked about it earlier today, clinton not only said that she's innocent, she also suggested this is simply ano

governmental oversight committee chaired by congressman jason chaffetz is furious that the fbi released selected portions of its file about mrst the same time the fbi was being interrogated by congressman chaffetz, his opposite member in the senate was making a speech about the same thing. >> quickly go ahead. how did the fbi decide what to keep secret and what to release and how can they do that to the congress. >> our representatives feel that the fbi held back too much, that our representatives get to hear more. watch what happened when the fbi testified today. >> will the fbi provide to congress the full file with no redactions of personal identifiable information? >> i cannot make that commit sitting here today. >> then i'm going to issue a subpoena and i'm going to do it right now. i've signed this subpoena. we want all of the 302s and we would like the full file. you can accept service on behalf of the fbi? >> certainly. >> you are here by served. >> this is dramatic and legally effective. the fbi, which rarely receives subpoenas, received one on national television. they will have to go to a federal judge now to argue

mrs. clinton: i did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. rep. chaffetz: well, and we still have literally tens of thousands of emails that they haven't finished going through. they have 14,900 of them that the state department is reviewing, but we heard testimony last week that there's an additional universe of tens of thousands that they haven't gone through. and a lot of this stuff was destroyed. sharyl: what's so bad about the idea of some of those emails being obtained by our enemies? has anything happened because of it? our world hasn't exactly fallen in. rep. chaffetz: you have everything from satellite imagery to drone sik covert operators. you know, a lot of this will be untold -- behind the scenes. but what if you were putting your life on the line? what if it was your son or daughter who was out there serving this country in maybe a clandestine way and then you had this cavalier person in hillary clinton just not secure the data? it puts people at jeopardy, at risk, and there's untold consequences to that. like i've said many times before, she

mr. chairman. >> gentleman's time is expired. the committee will stand in recess and reconvene no earlier than 6:30. chaffetz: the committee will come to order. recognize mr. desaulnier. desaulnier: thank you. , did you help with the lobbying process? minimal and the scope of what we have done with awareness and access. the outreach and lobbying was due to the epinephrine to have it in the schools. reachedthe product is as life expectancy, to the schools purchase it? >> we give it every year, free. quote in terms of accepting some responsibility is looking back on my wish we had better anticipated the magnitude and acceleration of the rising financial issues for growing minority of patients. we never intended this. is that your statement? your responsibility? are you proud of the actions of your corporation? >> i would hope that nobody would want to go back to where the awareness was so shockingly low and the access was almost nonexistent for epipen's. i believe that we have continued to balance that access. it does come at a price. we have tried to balance that price while at the same time continuing to hav

mr. chairman, for holding this hearing. >> thank the gentleman. chairman chaffetz. >> thank you. chairman mica, i want to thank you for your leadership on this, going down and visiting louisiana, taking time away from your family and your schedule for one of the worst disasters that we have had. governor, mayors, thank you so much for being here, for the fema representative, we appreciate you being here but you've got to get your act together. this response so far what i've been able to see, the pictures, it ain't good enough. elijah e. cummings talks with this a lot in our committee. we spend billions of dollars. everybody comes in and testified that everything is good and we are ready, and then went it really, really rains, they might say we get what 16 inches of rain, maybe in an entire year? y'all got 30 plus inches in 36 hours i'm told. you've got tens of thousands of people who's every bit of what they have in their homes is sitting out in the front yard. they can't even touch the poison that they have. and you've got a dozen of this anand a dozen of that. it doesn't cut it

mr. healy, you're now recognized. >> good afternoon chairman chaffetz, ranking member cummings and members of the committee. thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today. i hope the information that i share will provide additional insight into the full scope of the sexual harassment and hostile work environment issues at grand canyon and the efforts of the park service to address the misconduct at the park. the vast majority of grand canyon employees believe in the n pp s mission are hard working, selfless and willing to cooperate to meet goals. nevertheless, as this committee has seen in the office of inspector general's report on a previous pervasive misconduct within the river district, there are exceptions. my testimony today may anger some of my co-workers and managers. based on my experiences, i feel as if my career, my safety, and the safety of other employees at the park may be at some risk even though there are numerous protections in place for whistleblowers. thus i'm using caution is how i characterize these experiences to protect the privacy of individual victims and wit

mrs. clinton's use of private e-mail server as secretary of state. house oversight committee chairman jason chaffetz telling the associated press -- again, these are three cases of immunity that are in addition to two others we already know about, including the i.t. guy who set up the home servers. judge, i didn't know the -- who is giving out the immunity? >> it actually is not immunity. immunity is an order signed by a federal judge which bars prosecution forever on the subject matter of the immunity, and it can only be given in order to induce or compel a person to testify before a grand jury or trial jury. there was no grand jury in this case, since there was no indictment, there was obviously no trial jury. what ms. mills apparently got was the following; since we don't have a grand jury, don't have a subpoena, we don't have a subpoena, we can't force to you turn over your laptop. if you voluntarily give us your laptop, we promise not to use anything in there against you. apparently that's what was done that. is not immunity, that's a limited agreement not to prosecute. justice department appar

. >> thank you, first of all, there was an incident referred to by chairman chaffetz before and i'm going ask mr. reynolds about a situation where at first blush the wife was kind of over the husband, is that true? >> in that situation she does not directly supervise her husband. she's in the regional office, which is the next level up, sir. >> how long did that situation exist? >> i would have to confirm but i think it's been many, many years since they were in service. >> where she's -- >> long-serving deputy, maybe more than ten years at least. >> okay. i'll give you another general weapon and this, to me, is just more evidence why no matter how tempting it may seem to my deletion you never, ever, ever, want the government to do anything more than they have to. mr. healy -- well, one more question for mr. reynolds. you said that you never knew since you're the head of hr anybody being fired for sexual harassment, right? you couldn't remember that? is that true? >> i'm going to follow up for the chairman on the data but it didn't hit -- i was managing systems and processes. >> how long were yo

. >> in an answer you to a question, congressman chaffetz named order to destroy this, david kendall, mrschief lawyer and cheryl mills, her chief personal aide. that is what he wants to ask these two. who instructed you to do this? how could you have done it? did you not know that there was an order to preserve that which you were destroying? that is the question they want to ask. bill: so, the fbi goes to bryan pagliano. >> that is the i.t. guy that set up the server in her house. bill: he is at the heart of all this why would you even suggest immunity for him? if you're trying to figure out what happened and when and where who gave the order? >> this is why it is so inexplicable. i can't get my hands around this federal judges are only suppose to give immunity to induce testimony before a grand jury or trial jury. there was no grand jury in this case. the fbi didn't present a single piece of evidence to a grand jury. they didn't get a a grand jury. they didn't get a search warrant from a judge. what was the purpose of the so-called immunity. that is what i would ask director comey. they

mr. chairman for holding this hearing today. >> thank the gentlelady. chairman chaffetz. >> thank you. i want to thank you for your leadership going down to louisia louisiana, taking time from your family and schedule, and visiting one of the worst d disasters we have had. fema, you have to get your act together. this response i have seen ain't good enough. cummings talks about this. we spend billions, everybody comes in and testifies everything is good and we are ready. and then when it really, really rains. my state gets 16 inches of rain maybe in an entire year. you all got 30 plus inches in 36 hours i am told. you got tens of thousands of people who is ever bit of what they have in their homes is sitting out in their front yard. they cannot even touch the toys they have. and you have a dozen of this and a dozen of that? it doesn't cut it. so i hope we are having a candid discussion as possible but the response we have seen thus far is not acceptable. we will keep dragging you up here in front of this committee because we hear it is all good. then when it happens, it ain't so go. th

judicial watch attorney michael, you know, jason chaffetz says it is not political, he's talking about national security. what do you make of that? >> astonishing mr not attend the hearing today. the house committee issued a subpoena, it was not optional. when mr. pagliano came to testify for judicial watch, he asserted fifth amendment right 125 times, he still appeared and went through the process. the fact that team clinton has no respect to congress is astonishing and should be a big disappointment to the public. liz: set this up for the viewer, 2100 e-mails were deemed classified after the fact. at the time it was 110, the fbi says 2100. 22 were top secret. longtime clinton aide justin cooper with the clinton foundation, the clinton global initiative, he testified today. he's the one who handle clinton's server in its earliest days, watch. >> do you have -- did you have a security clearance at that time? >> no, i did not have security clearance. >> after you left the white house early in -- when did you leave? >> 2001. >> 2001. did you have security clearance after that? >> no, i did not have security clearance. >> and you had full access to t

mrs. clinton's e-mail and whether they have been forthcoming with investigators looking into it. the story did not end there. joining us live, jason chaffetz see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so that was an attempt to give you an unvarnished look at the interview and the notes of who they talked to. today you had a beef with this guy brian pagliano who set it up and you served a subpoena to come testify in front of you and he blew you off? >> we provided a second subpoena. he also blew that off. subpoenas are not optional in our country. you have to comply with them. >> why wouldn't he want to appear before you? >> i don't know. that's why you give people an opportunity. we can investigate anything at any time. it's how we do the checks and balances in this country. it's why we have this subpoena power to compel people to come before congress. sometimes they talk, sometimes they plead the fifth. >> the democrats on the committee say you are trying to harass him and humiliate him, that this is only a political show and you're trying to drag this guy before you who has already asserted he wants to exercise his fifth amendment rights.