mr. chair. >> commissioner hur. >> mr. chair, i have a couple of follow-up questions to what mr. shin raise and commissioner stephenson can you describe the difference in the amended process if we were to put in the proposal that mr. ravages way offered in terms of how to amend this legislation if approved by the voters versus if it was entered into by the board of supervisors. >> the purpose of restriction that mr. ravens way mentioned both the ordinance and the governmental ethics ordinance were enacted by the voters as many of the commissioners are aware by the voter it can't be amended by the board of supervisors it needs to go back to the voters it can't are reform for the ethics ordinance as mexico's to allow for later perspective fix so lobs as those changes indicator the provisions so in a way it allows you to not have to go back to the voters as long as their consistent with the spirit of the original ordinances it allows to you e rattle to adjust 2:00 o'clock and make slight fixed by something that was voted by the voter you try to extract a perfect ordnance about it is

mr. chair commissioner hur and i think we've had it out certainly with the statute of limitations in termsf further beating of that horse i can't imagine what can be addressed to the discussion tonight tonight. >> motion on the table. >> call the question. >> you want to - you have the motion. >> my motion we not authorize mr. sincroy to send out the leaders or letter saying the marietta matter is waved because of the statute of limitations we not approve the letter. >> all in favor, say i. >> i opposed i opts because my amendment was not included. >> so the motion is carried that the letter not go out the other issue i think that is - >> can you stayed the vote we couldn't tell. >> 4 to one. >> okay. thank you. >> the other question is whether or not we want to continue to take any action in the farrell matter there's sort of. >> double negative hanging somewhere in terms of don't say require a motion we're not going to take further action i think the opposite would be true if we're going to take further action someone will move we take further action and this is not going to be me. >> as