mr. chairmyou noted you spot jackets, you leave me with the impression you weren't told where they were, you happened to see them in your closet. >> no, it was only because i was hanginne ohis suits and it was the only closet without any shelf and that's when i spotted the life jackets. they didn't tell us where they were, but that's where. i opened the closet and saw the orange jacket there. >> and i had no idea where the life jackets were, only she knew where the life jackets were. >> on the upside, the italian coast guard, sounds like from your perspective good response from the italian coast guard? once they knew about it? >> yes. >> well, again, i'm -- i'm glad you're here to give us this firsthand experience. i'm sorry for your experience. but thank you very much for coming. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. and thank you for being here to account to what occurred and, again, i'm sorry that both of you had to go through this as well as every member on that ship. a couple of quick questions i have. was this your first cruise ship? or did you have experie